Bi-X Igniter replacement / disassembly DIY Guide
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OEM HID igniter question
Hello,
I took the bumper off my 2k1 c320 for the first time to get at the headlights. The information display has showed a malfunction for the right headlight for at least 2 years now.
Swapped ballasts and put it all back. Right HID is still lazy and fires about 60% on first try.
Anyone know the OEM part number for the igniter/bulb assembly? Better yet, anyone know if the same parts from an CLK, S-Class, E class will plug and play?
Thanks!
I took the bumper off my 2k1 c320 for the first time to get at the headlights. The information display has showed a malfunction for the right headlight for at least 2 years now.
Swapped ballasts and put it all back. Right HID is still lazy and fires about 60% on first try.
Anyone know the OEM part number for the igniter/bulb assembly? Better yet, anyone know if the same parts from an CLK, S-Class, E class will plug and play?
Thanks!
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2002 C230 Coupe
HID FLICKERING HELP
I just bought Mtec HIDS and installed them myself seemed easy enough
but when ever i turn on the car after 20 seconds the lights flicker like crazy driver side then passenger then driver then both etc.. no idea what is happening
the hids are not attached tot eh battery there attached to the halogen output
i heard things about a calbraitor or taking to the dealer ship wtf do you do???
but when ever i turn on the car after 20 seconds the lights flicker like crazy driver side then passenger then driver then both etc.. no idea what is happening
the hids are not attached tot eh battery there attached to the halogen output
i heard things about a calbraitor or taking to the dealer ship wtf do you do???
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You need to do one of two things.
Either go to the dealer and have the vehicle recoded for xenon present, or order a pair of error cancelers which are $40 from us.
Aftermarket HID kits draw less voltage then a standard halogen bulb, this makes the vehicle think that the bulb is out since the draw is not there. That is what the error cancelers do, they act as a draw of voltage.
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Either go to the dealer and have the vehicle recoded for xenon present, or order a pair of error cancelers which are $40 from us.
Aftermarket HID kits draw less voltage then a standard halogen bulb, this makes the vehicle think that the bulb is out since the draw is not there. That is what the error cancelers do, they act as a draw of voltage.
James
877-422-4736
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MTEC is probably just another HID kit that feels they can sucker MB owners into believe they work all the time. The truth is they work sometimes, and sometimes not. Sometimes they work for a while and then stop working for no apparant reason. The kit I got said that it works without the coding, and many people bought the kit and it did work, but I had to get the xenon=present coding after a few days when it stopped working.
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i just called the dealership and they said they wont touch it.....
think im starting to freak out, the dealership guy was saying that aftermarket hids wont ever work with your car properly and even with that reprogram it will still short the system out and mess it up.. wat the hell?
think im starting to freak out, the dealership guy was saying that aftermarket hids wont ever work with your car properly and even with that reprogram it will still short the system out and mess it up.. wat the hell?
Last edited by lionheart153; Oct 3, 2008 at 12:32 PM.
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and to make things worse, last night i put the halogen back in so i could drive home from my buddies car, the error did not do away, it said both front lamps were out still even tho the one side had its halogen put back in (the other was already burnt out)
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i just called the dealership and they said they wont touch it.....
think im starting to freak out, the dealership guy was saying that aftermarket hids wont ever work with your car properly and even with that reprogram it will still short the system out and mess it up.. wat the hell?
think im starting to freak out, the dealership guy was saying that aftermarket hids wont ever work with your car properly and even with that reprogram it will still short the system out and mess it up.. wat the hell?
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2002 C230 Coupe
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wow this is hopeless the guys who sold me the hids was supposed to do the install i called them and they said it must be a relay thing?! wtf!?
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You should STFF here and convince yourself if it's the coding. It's been discussed like so many times everytime someone posted the very similar problem like yours.
I am pretty sure you'll just need to take care of the coding (Happened to me as well)
GL
I am pretty sure you'll just need to take care of the coding (Happened to me as well)
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You called the dealer and they said won't touch it, hmm, did you really expect them to say anything else? Do you have an SA that you normally work with? If you don't it's going to be hard. You need to build a relationship with an SA, find out from the salesperson who the best SA's are, make an appointment with him when he's not rushed, like at 10AM when they are done with the mad morning rush, tell him you want an oil change or alignment and while the car is in there, can he have the mechanic set the xenon=present option on so you can use xenon bulbs and tell him you will make it worth his while if he can do you this favor. Then find a way to make it worth his while, I usually bring him a $20 Starbucks card or something. Seriously, when I bring gifts for SA's, they love you forever, they will not try so hard to rip you off next time, it the long run you will save money and get stuff like this done and get nice loaners instead of the one that a got thrown up in.
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You called the dealer and they said won't touch it, hmm, did you really expect them to say anything else? Do you have an SA that you normally work with? If you don't it's going to be hard. You need to build a relationship with an SA, find out from the salesperson who the best SA's are, make an appointment with him when he's not rushed, like at 10AM when they are done with the mad morning rush, tell him you want an oil change or alignment and while the car is in there, can he have the mechanic set the xenon=present option on so you can use xenon bulbs and tell him you will make it worth his while if he can do you this favor. Then find a way to make it worth his while, I usually bring him a $20 Starbucks card or something. Seriously, when I bring gifts for SA's, they love you forever, they will not try so hard to rip you off next time, it the long run you will save money and get stuff like this done and get nice loaners instead of the one that a got thrown up in.
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Relays won't make much of a difference, what's happening is the cars's computer is so smart, it can measure the amperage draw of the headlight and tell you when there's a problem if this drops below a threshold. And to make it better, they will turn the light on and off to let you know there's a problem. But the HID lights run at much lower amperage and that makes them not work. So in theory, if you increase the draw to what a halogen does, it will work and some have done that.
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Ya man you bet. the error for both lights are on. initial the driver side light was out in the first place, me and a buddy installed the HIDs seemed fine. turn the car on for about 20 seconds and like i said the lights start flickering. the lights work fine when the car is off and the lights left on. but not when you start the car. just want to make sure that this only because of the recode. if its any more im gonna just return it. so when it didnt work i put my halogen back into the passenger side but itstill shows that theres an error on both. but i noticed that when had teh hids installed and started the car both errors went off, but after it would come on
wow this is hopeless the guys who sold me the hids was supposed to do the install i called them and they said it must be a relay thing?! wtf!?
wow this is hopeless the guys who sold me the hids was supposed to do the install i called them and they said it must be a relay thing?! wtf!?
turn on your HID first before turning on the car and the lights will stay on. It'll still give you error msg, but the lights should work.
lastly, go to dealership and tell them they're full of **** for not wanting to change the setting. The OEM xenon or bi-xenon works the same way as aftermarket. power > ballast > bulb. it's just OEM are packed up nicely without wires dangling.
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the lamp error msg won't stay on if you put the halogen bulb back in. you need to shut the car off and take out the key and restart the car before the error will go away.
turn on your HID first before turning on the car and the lights will stay on. It'll still give you error msg, but the lights should work.
lastly, go to dealership and tell them they're full of **** for not wanting to change the setting. The OEM xenon or bi-xenon works the same way as aftermarket. power > ballast > bulb. it's just OEM are packed up nicely without wires dangling.
turn on your HID first before turning on the car and the lights will stay on. It'll still give you error msg, but the lights should work.
lastly, go to dealership and tell them they're full of **** for not wanting to change the setting. The OEM xenon or bi-xenon works the same way as aftermarket. power > ballast > bulb. it's just OEM are packed up nicely without wires dangling.
surpisingly i reconnected the HIDS and left them on with the car off for a minute then turned the car on, surpisingly the flickering still occured but no errors and no turning off, course this is only side (the driver) im gonna try put in the passenger later and see if it works to
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You need to do one of two things.
Either go to the dealer and have the vehicle recoded for xenon present, or order a pair of error cancelers which are $40 from us.
Aftermarket HID kits draw less voltage then a standard halogen bulb, this makes the vehicle think that the bulb is out since the draw is not there. That is what the error cancelers do, they act as a draw of voltage.
Either go to the dealer and have the vehicle recoded for xenon present, or order a pair of error cancelers which are $40 from us.
Aftermarket HID kits draw less voltage then a standard halogen bulb, this makes the vehicle think that the bulb is out since the draw is not there. That is what the error cancelers do, they act as a draw of voltage.
