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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 08:24 AM
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2. The C230K "IS" a hatchback.
oh my god....im done here, yall have a good time STILL arguing about this....
Old Oct 28, 2002 | 09:01 AM
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Originally posted by ting
Am I the only one that agrees with SoCal240? I think Timmy is completely full of it. He's had too many problems and too bad of skill to back his claims.

2. The C230K "IS" a hatchback.
Can you read "AND" comprehend? Please re-read this thread one more time, then re: #2. It's not about the C Coupe NOT being a hatchback - what else is it? It's about snooty attitude and condescending tone. It's about "C Coupe" not being "C Hatchback".
Old Oct 28, 2002 | 10:18 AM
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It is a Coupe and a Hatchback. By definition a coupe has two-doors, which the C230 has. End of discussion, it is both, what do you want them to name it the C230 SportCoupe Hatchback? That is a little long. It is both, as it has 2-doors and a damn hatch.
Old Oct 28, 2002 | 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by mctwin2kman
It is a Coupe and a Hatchback. By definition a coupe has two-doors, which the C230 has. End of discussion, it is both, what do you want them to name it the C230 SportCoupe Hatchback? That is a little long. It is both, as it has 2-doors and a damn hatch.
Oh, no... another one... Just read the damn thread.
Old Oct 28, 2002 | 12:02 PM
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Actually, why don't you people who are so disturbed by MB calling the car C230 Coupe sue MB, citing that they mislead the consumers and purposely upclass the hatchback by definition to be a coupe so that they can sell it at a higher price?

If the car is a hatchback by all means, MB is at fraud. Then we coupe owners can get some money back when the car is renamed back to it's low class status.

This will be a win-win situation. You guys will be peace with the name C230 Hatchback, and I won't mind my car being officially a hatchback with the extra $10k or so that I'll get back from MB .
Old Oct 28, 2002 | 01:14 PM
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Actually I was not crabbing just stating that it by definition is both. As is the Dodge Viper GTS, Corvette, and I am sure some others. But you do not see SoCal crabbing about the Corvette or Viper GTS not being called Hatchbacks.
Old Oct 28, 2002 | 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by SoCal240/6
Yes, the M Coupe is technically a hatchback.

But, because it doesn't have a rear seat, it's styling is not prototypical economy car hatchback, like the MB Hatchback.

Although I'd say that the M Coupe, with its more upright hatch, is more of a hatchback than those other cars.
Funny, the first time I saw an M3 coupe I thought it was a seriously riced-out 2-door Civic. Although I never went up to a guy driving one and said, "Wow, you sure fixed that Civic up good!" I did something like this before when I told a guy with a Lotus Elan that I liked his customized Miata.

By the way, the last few times I noticed that SoCal240/6 posted his hatchback vs. coupe arguments someone else first mentioned him by name/asked his opinion - then got upset when he replied with his usual response.

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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 02:34 PM
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Originally posted by trench
Funny, the first time I saw an M3 coupe I thought it was a seriously riced-out 2-door Civic.
somehow alot of people i have talked to mistake the M coupe as that Daewoo small hatchback. dont know the name though.
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 02:39 PM
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i think its Nubria or something weird like that.
Old Oct 28, 2002 | 02:50 PM
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i think its Nubria or something weird like that.
that may be it.
Old Oct 28, 2002 | 03:39 PM
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If everyone finds this debate amusing wait until MB starts selling the $50,000 four door hatchback sedan.
Old Oct 28, 2002 | 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by Lynn
If everyone finds this debate amusing wait until MB starts selling the $50,000 four door hatchback sedan.
Are you talking about the ~$50,000 CLE Coupe? It sure looks like a four-door hatchback sedan.





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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 04:15 PM
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So MB is pushing the hatchback genre upscale, not bringing their products downscale
Old Oct 28, 2002 | 04:28 PM
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its not a hatchback, the trunk opens just as any other sedan, its a coupe in that the rear doors are much smaller than the front....
Old Oct 28, 2002 | 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by Petie
its not a hatchback, the trunk opens just as any other sedan, its a coupe in that the rear doors are much smaller than the front....
I actually haven't seen how the trunk opens. If you look at the picture it appears that there is more space on the top and sides - just like a hatchback. Lynn's just carrying this observation/joke over from another thread.

Also, the rear doors appear to have the same size differential from the front doors as a 3-series sedan.



I think the original suicide door design was much more keeping with a coupe designation.

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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 05:07 PM
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i agree that i dont think it is a coupe or a hatchback, just an altered sedan, but its filling a market, the name will probably sell cars....
Old Oct 28, 2002 | 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by Petie
i agree that i dont think it is a coupe or a hatchback, just an altered sedan, but its filling a market, the name will probably sell cars....
Just like calling the C230 a "Coupe" does.

Now, if we could just get seized motors back into this thread we will have really come full-circle.



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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 06:35 PM
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bmw 3 series is a hatch too

when you think about it, the 3 series coupe is a hatch too. The definition of a hatchback is a 2 door vehicle that has no clear (stell) boundary beetween the passanger and the trunk compartment. Prelude is an example of a true coupe cuz you cant reach the trunk by folding the rear seats down. I read it in motor trend somewhere. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Old Oct 28, 2002 | 06:44 PM
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hypothetically speaking, if it were a 4 door with a trunk and glass that raised together, would it be called?
Old Oct 28, 2002 | 07:08 PM
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Wow it took me 2 days to read through this thread, fascinating stuff. So who won the argument? Remember this;

Winning an argument on the forums is like winning a gold medal in the Special Olympic, even if you win you are still a retard.
Old Oct 28, 2002 | 07:24 PM
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Originally posted by Buellwinkle
Wow it took me 2 days to read through this thread, fascinating stuff. So who won the argument?
its like the tootsie roll owl said "1 - 2- 3- crunch.......the world may never know!"
Old Oct 28, 2002 | 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by Buellwinkle
Wow it took me 2 days to read through this thread, fascinating stuff. So who won the argument? Remember this;
here the pic to go along with that buell.

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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 09:17 PM
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 09:30 PM
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Originally posted by BlackC230Coupe
here the pic to go along with that buell.
That's a very funny and mean picture! lol
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Wow it took me 2 days to read through this thread, fascinating stuff. So who won the argument? Remember this;
Winning an argument on the forums is like winning a gold medal in the Special Olympic, even if you win you are still a retard.
What was the color of the trailer you were driving by when you overheard this phrase?


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