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2002 C230K/6sp(2.3l) VS 2003 C230/6sp(1.8l)

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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 04:39 AM
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2002 C230K/6sp(2.3l) VS 2003 C230/6sp(1.8l)

How much is the difference between the accelarions 0-60/mph or 0-100/km/h?
What are the top speeds?
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 07:49 AM
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I downgraded to a VW, it's still German though
I'm pretty sure all the US cars are limited at 130 mph. I know mine is limited to 130. I haven't timed the 0-60. My 2003 feels faster than a 2002, but that is what my Butt Dyno tells me. Not sure in reality. You can get you a Butt Dyno from KaleCo Auto though.

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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 08:14 AM
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as I Know european 2.3 K takes 7.4 and 1.8k takes 8.1 0-100km/h
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 03:13 AM
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Please seee this site is correct?

according to this site 2002 ruleeessss

http://www.auto123.com/en/used/compa...ID2=1034000801
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 03:48 AM
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Has anyone checked if the 2002 C230 has electronicaly limited speed on 130mph? In canada its not limited and it is 140mph but the 2003 year model has limited top speed on 130mph.
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 06:25 AM
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The US version of the 2002 C230k Coupe (2.3 liter M111) is limited to 130 (been there...shhh).

The biggest differences are tourque curve - the 2002 has tons more torque in the low end....and weight - the 1.8 in the 03-05 (1.8 liter M271) Coupe is 143 pounds lighter, and rolls slightly less as a result.

The reason the 1.8 "feels" faster is because the car has less front end weight, resulting in a more nimble feel. Bone stock, the performance specs of these cars are so identical, the only difference at the end of the day (and the END of a straight-line quarter mile) might be driver related. But then, these cars aren't made for drag racing.

The 2.3 might be a little faster off the line (torque), but the 1.8 pulls well above 3000 RPM. The 2.3 is also a tried and true design, in that the basic engine block and bottom end have been in the Mercedes family since 1953....there's something to be said about longevity.

These opinions are my own - tested by my own seat of the pants in my own car (and a friend's 2004) - on a closed circuit. Please feel free to factually refute these opinions if you so desire...but be prepared to prove your own.
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 11:35 AM
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Don't care about proving my input. However, I have a 2.3L with a pulley, and there is NO comparison to a 1.8L. Run circles around them.

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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 12:15 PM
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Don't care about proving my input. However, I have a 2.3L with a pulley, and there is NO comparison to a 1.8L. Run circles around them.
Yes, that's the real difference - you add a pulley to an M111, and suddenly, it grows *****.

Though I don't have facts to prove that (well, neither did Rick, but that's a different subject).
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Old Sep 29, 2007 | 04:42 PM
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yeah! M111 hidden powa!
I guess because it is running a lot under its capability ???
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Old Sep 29, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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The US version of the 2002 C230k Coupe (2.3 liter M111) is limited to 130 (been there...shhh).
isn't there a little button under the accelerator when u hit all the way then u push a little more on that button that disable the speed limit?... never tried though....
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 02:25 PM
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The biggest differences are tourque curve - the 2002 has tons more torque in the low end....and weight - the 1.8 in the 03-05 (1.8 liter M271) Coupe is 143 pounds lighter, and rolls slightly less as a result.
I am sure the 1.8 weighs less, but 143 pounds less on a 4 cylinder engine????? Is one made of lead and the other of aluminum foil?

That sounds a little high, to say the least. Where did you get that figure from? My numbers show that the '03 coupe (M271) is about 50lbs lighter than the '02 coupe (M111), so unless there was a large weight change on some other part of the '02 that would account for closing the gap between your 143 lb figure and the actual weight difference between the two model years, it would seem that the 271 is lighter, but not 143 lbs lighter.

To me, if you've ever had an engine out of a car, 143 lbs is the difference between a four cylinder and a (lightweight) eight cylinder, not the difference in weight between two four cylinder engines.

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Yes, that's the real difference - you add a pulley to an M111, and suddenly, it grows *****.

Though I don't have facts to prove that (well, neither did Rick, but that's a different subject).
Is THAT what those are? Damn I been wondering...they appeared shortly after installing the pulley and became even further engorged after the install of the header, Remus, and free flow cat...
when I tried the remove them the car wouldn't run correctly, and the exhaust note changed to a high pitched squeal so I've left them alone.

Wish I had some PShop skills here....

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Originally Posted by spyderpig
isn't there a little button under the accelerator when u hit all the way then u push a little more on that button that disable the speed limit?... never tried though....
No.
Thats the kickdown switch for the auto tranny, which after 2002 became
a placebo switch doesn't do anything according to the service dvd.
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 02:14 AM
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No.
Thats the kickdown switch for the auto tranny, which after 2002 became
a placebo switch doesn't do anything according to the service dvd.
So that thing on my car has no function then ! Does anything work on my car? exept the AVIC dvd nav ??? lol sorry
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