DIY - M271 $12 hose replacement
#101
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My EML light came on after a half hour drive.. then turned off.. read the error codes and i had an MAF low code and a misfire one also. That's like christmas has come early! I've been waiting for a reason to do this ever since reading this thread. i've ordered a new MAF the 2 hoses and that flexible clamp remover. I even got that click-r thing and i cant wait to tackle this, just have to wait until it all arrives. Finally a job where im not under the car, hooray!
*edit - looks like the click-r cant even be used as it wont fit unless i remove the compressor,, oh well, screwdrivers it is!
*edit - looks like the click-r cant even be used as it wont fit unless i remove the compressor,, oh well, screwdrivers it is!
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The Clic-R tool does come in useful. I used it on 2 connectors. One on an elbow to the throttle body, and another on where the $12 hose attaches.
The 4 hose connectors to the fuel filter also use Clic-R clamps. I replaced them with the fuel injector screw types. However, now that I have the tool, I may pop the Clic-R ones back on the next time I do the job.
With that said, check at the dealer (give them your VIN) to see if the hoses and check valve were replaced under recall. If not, they'll do the job for free.
The 4 hose connectors to the fuel filter also use Clic-R clamps. I replaced them with the fuel injector screw types. However, now that I have the tool, I may pop the Clic-R ones back on the next time I do the job.
With that said, check at the dealer (give them your VIN) to see if the hoses and check valve were replaced under recall. If not, they'll do the job for free.
Last edited by slammer111; 08-06-2022 at 05:42 AM.
#103
First of all, thanks a lot for such a detailed tutorial!
Lately I'm getting a lot of P072 (system too rich) and P201C, plus sometimes misfire cylinder1, and rough idle jumping up and down shaking the car. I clean the error and for a while it runs fine, then back again.
MAF is new.
The hose over the supercharger is fine.
Checking the engine bay, after removing the airbox, i've seen lots of "dark oil" around that valve/hose hiding behind the supercharger.
Is there a way to check for leaks without having to remove intake and charger?
Thanks.
Lately I'm getting a lot of P072 (system too rich) and P201C, plus sometimes misfire cylinder1, and rough idle jumping up and down shaking the car. I clean the error and for a while it runs fine, then back again.
MAF is new.
The hose over the supercharger is fine.
Checking the engine bay, after removing the airbox, i've seen lots of "dark oil" around that valve/hose hiding behind the supercharger.
Is there a way to check for leaks without having to remove intake and charger?
Thanks.
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First of all, thanks a lot for such a detailed tutorial!
Lately I'm getting a lot of P072 (system too rich) and P201C, plus sometimes misfire cylinder1, and rough idle jumping up and down shaking the car. I clean the error and for a while it runs fine, then back again.
MAF is new.
The hose over the supercharger is fine.
Checking the engine bay, after removing the airbox, i've seen lots of "dark oil" around that valve/hose hiding behind the supercharger.
Is there a way to check for leaks without having to remove intake and charger?
Thanks.
Lately I'm getting a lot of P072 (system too rich) and P201C, plus sometimes misfire cylinder1, and rough idle jumping up and down shaking the car. I clean the error and for a while it runs fine, then back again.
MAF is new.
The hose over the supercharger is fine.
Checking the engine bay, after removing the airbox, i've seen lots of "dark oil" around that valve/hose hiding behind the supercharger.
Is there a way to check for leaks without having to remove intake and charger?
Thanks.
#105
Hoses are fine, they don't even look so old. Probably e previous mechanic been working on it already (a clamp is missing).
Here is the broken part. Hope I'll find a way to remove it from hose and change it without having to remove supercharger.
Hats off to everyone contributed into this discussion! Not even official dealer/mechanic looked into it.
Last edited by DiabloC200K; 08-05-2022 at 12:54 PM.
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Welcome to the $12 hose and broken check valve clubs.
Technically it may be possible to replace just the check valve, but you'll have to fish all the broken bits out of the 2 hoses. Also, without removing the hoses there is no way to know if you have the latest version. The $12 hose has 4 versions (different materials), so I wouldn't be surprised if the bottom 2 hoses were also updated several times.
Lastly, you'll have to somehow flex the hoses enough to install the new check valve without breaking it. If you're able to do so, please post instructions. I found I was unable to do so, which is why I removed the supercharger.
While everything is out, be sure to do all the other jobs (top up supercharger oil, change engine mounts etc.) in the link provided.
Technically it may be possible to replace just the check valve, but you'll have to fish all the broken bits out of the 2 hoses. Also, without removing the hoses there is no way to know if you have the latest version. The $12 hose has 4 versions (different materials), so I wouldn't be surprised if the bottom 2 hoses were also updated several times.
Lastly, you'll have to somehow flex the hoses enough to install the new check valve without breaking it. If you're able to do so, please post instructions. I found I was unable to do so, which is why I removed the supercharger.
While everything is out, be sure to do all the other jobs (top up supercharger oil, change engine mounts etc.) in the link provided.
Last edited by slammer111; 08-11-2022 at 06:26 PM.
#107
Thanks. (really, thanks a lot for this forum post, without it i don't think i'd have been able to solve by myself)
I really like this car, but damn... Who the heck decided to put that valve there?
Tomorrow I'll try to find a longer ratchet (hope its right english name) to loosen the belt tensioner, then things will get easier.
Regarding supecharger, do I have to remove only 3 bolts, correct? 2 in the front, and the one hiding down/back, right? Or also the closer one attacched to the black plastic inlet? (stupid question, but its quite difficult to reach)
I really like this car, but damn... Who the heck decided to put that valve there?
Tomorrow I'll try to find a longer ratchet (hope its right english name) to loosen the belt tensioner, then things will get easier.
Regarding supecharger, do I have to remove only 3 bolts, correct? 2 in the front, and the one hiding down/back, right? Or also the closer one attacched to the black plastic inlet? (stupid question, but its quite difficult to reach)
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The hoses and valve have a recall. Call your local dealer and give them your VIN. If it hasn't been done, they'll do this job for free. Recalls do not expire.
The supercharger is held together by 3 screws, 2 in front by the pulley and 1 underneath the supercharger. You are correct. However, it requires removing 2 intake mufflers beforehand, one of which is quite a pain to reach. See my link (post #1) for detailed instructions.
The supercharger is held together by 3 screws, 2 in front by the pulley and 1 underneath the supercharger. You are correct. However, it requires removing 2 intake mufflers beforehand, one of which is quite a pain to reach. See my link (post #1) for detailed instructions.
Last edited by slammer111; 08-12-2022 at 08:07 PM.
#109
Engine bay cleaned up from all the oil/dirt, new hoses and valve.
Finally perfect idle, and looks like car is running much better.
Thanks a lot for sharing this informations.