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Old 05-27-2008, 08:19 AM
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Want to bye Mercedes in USA. Have some questions.

Hi people! Sorry for my English, am from Ukraine, my host language is Russian.
In Ukraine cars very expensive and as usual, used cars in bad condition. So, I want to bye Mercedes C230Kompressor 2004-2006 in USA and when deliver to Ukraine.
So, I have some questions:
1 - What engine established in 230K in USA?
2 - What charge of fuel in 230K?
3 - The indicator of temperature behind a board is F* only? Or C* too?
4 - Scale of speedmeter in "Miles" only?
5 - What need to repear in car at 60 000 miles?

Thank you all for your answers!
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1 - What engine established in 230K in USA?
2004-2005 = 1.8L Kompressor, 2006 = 2.5L V6

2 - What charge of fuel in 230K?
Fuel in U.S. costs about $4.00 to $4.50 depending on area. Premium fuel, or 91 Octane is required in the U.S. but the dealer can change this to use lesser quality fuel but you will lose some performance.

3 - The indicator of temperature behind a board is F* only? Or C* too?
Yes, you select language and english or metric from dash display

4 - Scale of speedmeter in "Miles" only?
U.S. speedometers are in both miles and kilometers

5 - What need to repear in car at 60 000 miles?
There is no specific maintenance at 60K miles, it's based on display that tells you when you need to do it. It's estimated that every 10-13K miles or once a year you need to do a service, either A or B.
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Originally Posted by Buellwinkle
2 - What charge of fuel in 230K?
Premium fuel, or 91 Octane is required in the U.S. but the dealer can change this to use lesser quality fuel but you will lose some performance.
I believe that to be 95 RON in Ukraine

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4 - Scale of speedmeter in "Miles" only?
U.S. speedometers are in both miles and kilometers
That applies to digital only. The actual "needle display" will be in mph.
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Thanks for your answers!
Probably, I shall buy 1.8 compressor.
And, about fuel, I have in view of, how many uses 1.8 compressor on 60 miles.
And what type of engine oil needs to be used? 5W30 or 0W40? Or another?
PS. In Ukraine fuel coast 1.30$ as litre (near 4$/Hallon)
PPS. You could not advise any web-site on sale of cars on export? Thank you!
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I believe that to be 95 RON in Ukraine
Yes, there are such devices, but what for? If it is possible to buy 92 gasoline (on 10 % more cheaply, than 95) . My brother have "Ford - Crown Vic" and he used 92 fuel only
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Originally Posted by LeiTO
Thanks for your answers!
Probably, I shall buy 1.8 compressor.
And, about fuel, I have in view of, how many uses 1.8 compressor on 60 miles.
And what type of engine oil needs to be used? 5W30 or 0W40? Or another?
PS. In Ukraine fuel coast 1.30$ as litre (near 4$/Hallon)
PPS. You could not advise any web-site on sale of cars on export? Thank you!
The most important thing about motor oil is it must meet specification MB 229.5. In the USA, the easiest oil to find (that meets the specification) is Mobil 1 Full Synthetic in weight 0W-40 (European Formula). Other Mobil 1 oils do not qualify.

In western Europe, other oils are available. Elf and Total both make oils that meet the Mercedes specifications. I am not sure what is available in your country.

The Mercedes C230K has been a good car for me. It has a blend of good performance and good fuel economy. I prefer the 6-speed manual transmission.

In terms of cars for sale, I often look at www.autotrader.com

Look carefully before you buy. Good Luck!

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Thank you so much! Mobil 1 0W40 is popular oil in Ukraine ...so it's not problem .
and last question still without answer...how much fuel used Mercedes C230K (1.8 L) on 60 miles (100 kilometers)?...
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I like This one

and This one

what do you think people?

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Why in C230K are different drive wheels and scales of an instrument board? On what it depends?

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looks like the one on the left is pre 2004.5, and the one on the right is post 2004.5 car
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How many hallons (litres) of fuel is spending on C230K (1.8 L) at 60 miles (100 kilometers)?????
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Originally Posted by LeiTO
How many hallons (litres) of fuel is spending on C230K (1.8 L) at 60 miles (100 kilometers)?????
Depends on your driving style, I did 250 KM highway driving and the average was 7.7L/100KM at a speed of 115 KM/hr.

City driving is roughly 11L/100KM

My car is a 6 speed manual 2003 Kompressor,and I do not shift it at the redline. I shift at 3000/3500 rpm. But that's just me, again it depends on your driving style.

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Originally Posted by LeiTO
5 - What need to repear in car at 60 000 miles?
I would not get a pre 2003 model W203. For my 2001 C320 Here's the list:
Defects:
L+R catalytic converters (warranty)
seat control modules (drivers)
Power Steering rack $3000USD
stepper motor (DIY dashboard disassembly pain in the butt)
Alternator (went kaput leaving me stranded on side of road)
passengers side HID igniter (DIY heatgun req'd but saved $1000)


Maintenance items:
MAF sensor (DIY)
Battery replacement
air filters
4 brake pads/discs + brake wear sensors
12 Denso Iridium Spark Plugs
multiple light bulbs for rear tail lights and interior

Repair due to my fault:
Rear SAM
cupholder
Rear SAM/fusebox, jumpstarted car directly from + terminal and - ground
cupholder repair (DIY easy)

Need to replace soon:
Accessory belt
water pump (keeping a watchful eye)
Cabin filter + outer filter that sits on top of battery
Shocks + sway bar links

I'm already hearing some creaking around bumps. It's def. suspension related. Maybe it's swaybar links or something.
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Originally Posted by LeiTO
Yes, there are such devices, but what for? If it is possible to buy 92 gasoline (on 10 % more cheaply, than 95) . My brother have "Ford - Crown Vic" and he used 92 fuel only
A Ford Crown Vic can run on low octane fuel with no problem, that is what it's designed for.

The C230 REQUIRES high octane fuel. You need to fill it with the 95 ron.
You COULD try to find a dealer to change the fuel setting in your ECU but otherwise you need 95!

The brain dead idiot (Can you tell I'm slightly angry?) at my local gas station filled my car with regular by mistake and it's been running pretty badly on it.
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Originally Posted by LeiTO
Hi people! Sorry for my English, am from Ukraine, my host language is Russian.
In Ukraine cars very expensive and as usual, used cars in bad condition. So, I want to bye Mercedes C230Kompressor 2004-2006 in USA and when deliver to Ukraine.
So, I have some questions:
1 - What engine established in 230K in USA?
2 - What charge of fuel in 230K?
3 - The indicator of temperature behind a board is F* only? Or C* too?
4 - Scale of speedmeter in "Miles" only?
5 - What need to repear in car at 60 000 miles?

Thank you all for your answers!
Maybe a silly question, but why not get one from Germany?
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How many hallons (litres) of fuel is spending on C230K (1.8 L) at 60 miles (100 kilometers)?????
I think the reason you have not received an answer from anyone in the USA is we use miles per gallon (mpg) for fuel economy. This is a matter of our law; every new car sold in the US must have a mileage rating (mpg) posted in the window, along with the list price of the car.

Although I am familiar with the liters per 100km measurement used in Europe, I have never actually calculated it for my car. US speedometers are in miles per hour, and fuel is sold by the gallon.
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Originally Posted by JLD2k3
Maybe a silly question, but why not get one from Germany?
in Germany:
1 - more expensive
2 - skin seats and sunroof is greater rarity for C-Classe in Europe.

for example, if I'll bye Mercedes from U.S at 17500$ in Ukraine it will coast:
17500(car) + 1000(transport) + 12890(duty) = 31390$ + first registration in police and get ID numbers for car 2000$

if I'll bye Mercedes from Germany:
min. 22000(car) + 800(transport) + 15720(duty) = 38520$ + first registration in police and get ID numbers for car 2200$ minimum

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I think the reason you have not received an answer from anyone in the USA is we use miles per gallon (mpg) for fuel economy. This is a matter of our law; every new car sold in the US must have a mileage rating (mpg) posted in the window, along with the list price of the car.

Although I am familiar with the liters per 100km measurement used in Europe, I have never actually calculated it for my car. US speedometers are in miles per hour, and fuel is sold by the gallon.
Ok! I can calculate by myself......how much gallon spending at 60 miles?
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Originally Posted by 911_03KCoupe
Depends on your driving style, I did 250 KM highway driving and the average was 7.7L/100KM at a speed of 115 KM/hr.

City driving is roughly 11L/100KM

My car is a 6 speed manual 2003 Kompressor,and I do not shift it at the redline. I shift at 3000/3500 rpm. But that's just me, again it depends on your driving style.

cheers

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thats good...but you drive 6-st manual transmition...I want to bye car with auto transmition...in Kyiv big traffic...and manual transmition very inconveniently...
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Sale of cars in Ukraine. Look this prices...
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Originally Posted by acr2001
A Ford Crown Vic can run on low octane fuel with no problem, that is what it's designed for.

The C230 REQUIRES high octane fuel. You need to fill it with the 95 ron.
You COULD try to find a dealer to change the fuel setting in your ECU but otherwise you need 95!

The brain dead idiot (Can you tell I'm slightly angry?) at my local gas station filled my car with regular by mistake and it's been running pretty badly on it.
In Ukraine available:
Diesel:
Diesel (for old diesel engines) - 4$/gallon
Euro Diesel (for new diesel engines) - 4.7$/gallon
Petrol:
76 - for old russian cars only ) - 3.7$/gallon
92 - normal for american cars - 4$/gallon
95 - good for any new car - 4.2$/gallon
95 super - (95 + chemical ingredients) very good for any new car - 4.7$/gallon
98 - hight quallity petrol for expensive cars (Porshe, Ferrari ect.) - 4.8$/gallon
98 super - (98 + chemical ingredients) for street racers - 5.2$/gallon

I think, american Mercedes need 95

PS. my Aveo - 92

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Buy your Mercedes in Germany you won't find cheaper anywhere else. The US-models (fuel) run on lower octane, so they'll have a higher consumption as the Euro fuels. If you import a car from the States you need to adjust things to comply to Euro-standards. Change headlights, speedo, redo all emission testing. My point is stick to Germany the price is cheaper and it's easier. Plus with fuel-prices, stick to Diesel in Europe it's everywhere and it's you can do a whole lot more of miles. For example I drive the C220 cdi and it uses only 5.5 liters per 100 kilometers as with a full gastank (63 liters) I can drive 1145km
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The US-models (fuel) run on lower octane, so they'll have a higher consumption as the Euro fuels.
Yes...some....near 1-2 litre on 100 KM ...it's no problem.

If you import a car from the States you need to adjust things to comply to Euro-standards. Change headlights, speedo, redo all emission testing.
It's no problem too...certificat coast 200$ in Ukraine

Plus with fuel-prices, stick to Diesel in Europe it's everywhere and it's you can do a whole lot more of miles. For example I drive the C220 cdi and it uses only 5.5 liters per 100 kilometers as with a full gastank (63 liters) I can drive 1145km
No, I want C230K (1.8 L) only...performance most important for me than economy.


PS. My mom drive Toyota Solara 2002 from USA...no problem ...so I think, car from USA is better for me than from Germany.
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Want to have performance buy a C32 AMG or a C55 AMG if you don't mind the price even those or cheaper in Germany than in the US. Certificat may cost only 200 or so but the changes are way more expensive. Ever bought MB-parts? Do you know what a speedo, headlights, fenders and different licenseplate holder for the trunk cost? But if you're going to get these parts in an illegal way that is quite common in Ukraina (stolen cars). In my opinion the person that does that is a loser. Because for own benefit they hurt a person that payed decent money for what he or she has.
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Want to have performance buy a C32 AMG or a C55 AMG if you don't mind the price even those or cheaper in Germany than in the US. Certificat may cost only 200 or so but the changes are way more expensive. Ever bought MB-parts? Do you know what a speedo, headlights, fenders and different licenseplate holder for the trunk cost? But if you're going to get these parts in an illegal way that is quite common in Ukraina (stolen cars). In my opinion the person that does that is a loser. Because for own benefit they hurt a person that payed decent money for what he or she has.
1 - AMG is fery expensive in duty. (Hight volume engine)
Diesel engine with 2,148 sm3 (2.2 L) is more expensive than petrol 1,796 sm3 (1.8 L).
2 - I shall not to do changes. I'll just bye sertificate. To bye MB-parts is not problem too, cuz I have credit card and I can bye from e-bay.
3 - I trust americans more than germans.
PS. As I know, from Germany to Ukraine delivered many stolen vehicles. I have friends in U.S. They can help to bye and send me car.
PPS. It's my opinion.


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