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Old 09-09-2008, 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by raymond g-
thx for the reply. that's where i'm getting mixed up in my head. i saved the
photos (4, 5, 6, 7) of your new headlights and no matter how I tried to view,
i'm still seeing reflector design and not projector. can you confirm that either
the larger, outside headlight beam, or the smaller, inside beam is really projector?
maybe i need new glasses.
Hi,

You may save the file and enlarge it to see the projector lenz. The side wall is reflector, whereas the centre core is Projector. All are made by glasses.
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Originally Posted by TemjinX2
you dont need glasses. There are no projectors in the pics he provided. I'm thinking he has the two terms confusion, since i'm guess english isn't his first language.
TemjinX2,

You may visit this ebay web-link below and self explanatory:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCE...spagenameZWDVW

English may not be my first language, but i do know the difference btwn Projector and Non-Projector...


Aside to Raymond, here is the closer look of the fog light. Hope it helps!

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i have no problem seeing that the fog lights are projector designs. you wouldn't
still have a link to the Ebay auction which sold you the the high/low beam
headlight unit, would you? tnx r-
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Originally Posted by fwwong
Interesting to see your PARKTRONIC (PTS) only has 2 sensors per front bumper strip. The standard is 3 sensors per bumper strip.
At least that's what both of my C-Classes (W203) have.

Is that an aftermarket PTS ? because I've never seen only 2 sensors per bumper strip before.

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Originally Posted by fwwong
TemjinX2,

You may visit this ebay web-link below and self explanatory:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCE...spagenameZWDVW

English may not be my first language, but i do know the difference btwn Projector and Non-Projector...


Aside to Raymond, here is the closer look of the fog light. Hope it helps!

Fwwong, from your previous most your stating you have projector head lights. Which is not the case and raymond was confused. If your speaking of projector fog lights then those are different.

You were talking about projector head lights and your linking me to projector fogs, which is confusing.

Unless your stating you want to buy projector head lights in the future and put in a hid kit. The way you quoted raymond it made it sound like you already them.

Originally Posted by fwwong
This Projector head lights have been around in eBay for quite some time. I browsed through the web site and saw it. The seller is very responsive and helpful. There are some cheaper ones, below USD80. But, quality is not as good as this. I was skeptical at the beginning with the Taiwanese products. However, this projector headlight focus well and bright!

Yes, it was a 9006 bulb type. So, you just need to fit it with similar HID bulb+ballast and it should work, brighter and last longer than standard halogen bulb.

For the look itself, it makes the car look different. Would be better if they add ANGEL EYES on it! Hahaha... But, too much of rewire work needed.

This projector headlight is plug and play.

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Originally Posted by raymond g-
i have no problem seeing that the fog lights are projector designs. you wouldn't
still have a link to the Ebay auction which sold you the the high/low beam
headlight unit, would you? tnx r-

Raymond,

My apologies for the confusion. Yes, the head lights are halogen type and no-Projector. I convert it to HID xenon.

Below is the seller in eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Merce...spagenameZWD1V
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Originally Posted by TemjinX2
Fwwong, from your previous most your stating you have projector head lights. Which is not the case and raymond was confused. If your speaking of projector fog lights then those are different.

You were talking about projector head lights and your linking me to projector fogs, which is confusing.

Unless your stating you want to buy projector head lights in the future and put in a hid kit. The way you quoted raymond it made it sound like you already them.
TemjinX2,

Now i've got you. Sorry, i have been overlooked at your message. You are right. Those headlights are Halogen type and not Projector. Only the fog lights are.



Thanks buddy!
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Originally Posted by Saprissa
Interesting to see your PARKTRONIC (PTS) only has 2 sensors per front bumper strip. The standard is 3 sensors per bumper strip.
At least that's what both of my C-Classes (W203) have.

Is that an aftermarket PTS ? because I've never seen only 2 sensors per bumper strip before.

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You are right, the parking sensors are for Toyota, Nissan and Honda (OEM) mostly.
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Originally Posted by fwwong
TemjinX2,

Now i've got you. Sorry, i have been overlooked at your message. You are right. Those headlights are Halogen type and not Projector. Only the fog lights are.



Thanks buddy!
all good man. you should get some rims on that bad boy.


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As promised, i have taken some photos with the fog light on + head light on during lunch hour.






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Originally Posted by TemjinX2
all good man. you should get some rims on that bad boy.


Bro, already got one set of BBS rim at home standby. My current tyre tracks are pretty new. So, i just thought of finishing it first before putting the BBS rims up.

I know it is going to take awhile to do so... sigh....
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Originally Posted by fwwong
You are right, the parking sensors are for Toyota, Nissan and Honda (OEM) mostly.
And Proton

Those are the aftermarket standard in South Africa

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Bro, already got one set of BBS rim at home standby. My current tyre tracks are pretty new. So, i just thought of finishing it first before putting the BBS rims up.

I know it is going to take awhile to do so... sigh....
Your car looks great! I'm in the same position. Want to put on new rims but my Michelin Pilot Exalto PE2s are only 35% worn!
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Your car looks great! I'm in the same position. Want to put on new rims but my Michelin Pilot Exalto PE2s are only 35% worn!
Bro,

Proton discontinued the parking sensors because couldn't meet their SUPER LOW target price.


Now i know that i am not alone! Hahaha... How's the Michelin tyres? Quiet and good handling? I suppos this is summer wheel, right?
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lol, now i'm no longer confused by all the headlight descriptions, thx.

traditional wisdom says that the focal point for the halogen bulb differs from
that of the HID's bulb when inserted into the headlight unit. so what usually
occurs is some degree of uncontrollable glare which could cause a bit of angst
to opposing drivers.

if you have a moment, could you post photos of the lighting pattern? a shot
of the beam in front of the car, as well as against a wall would be great.

the crystal clear look sure has upgraded the look of the car though. great
choice!
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Originally Posted by raymond g-
if you have a moment, could you post photos of the lighting pattern? a shot of the beam in front of the car, as well as against a wall would be great
+1 on seeing the light pattern from the fogs

Thanks!
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Originally Posted by fwwong
Bro,

Proton discontinued the parking sensors because couldn't meet their SUPER LOW target price.


Now i know that i am not alone! Hahaha... How's the Michelin tyres? Quiet and good handling? I suppos this is summer wheel, right?
Yes - Summer tyres. The Michelins are absolutely magic & quiet. My car came new with Continental Sport Contact 2s - absolute rubbish and noisy.

You communicate just like my fine friend Gan Poh Tyan from KL! I have spent a lot of time in Malaysia over last 14 years - now retired - can relax - spend time on forum

Malaysia is great country - also like Thailand

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Originally Posted by raymond g-
lol, now i'm no longer confused by all the headlight descriptions, thx.

traditional wisdom says that the focal point for the halogen bulb differs from
that of the HID's bulb when inserted into the headlight unit. so what usually
occurs is some degree of uncontrollable glare which could cause a bit of angst
to opposing drivers.

if you have a moment, could you post photos of the lighting pattern? a shot
of the beam in front of the car, as well as against a wall would be great.

the crystal clear look sure has upgraded the look of the car though. great
choice!
You are right! HID Xenon usually has wider angle of light coverage. I have yet to tune my fog light, because i intend to install HID on my projector fog light this weekend.

As soon as i get it done, i will snap some pictures of both head lights and fog light. Stay tuned...
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Yes - Summer tyres. The Michelins are absolutely magic & quiet. My car came new with Continental Sport Contact 2s - absolute rubbish and noisy.

You communicate just like my fine friend Gan Poh Tyan from KL! I have spent a lot of time in Malaysia over last 14 years - now retired - can relax - spend time on forum

Malaysia is great country - also like Thailand
How much does it cost one Michelin (same profile as yours) in your region? What tyre size you use?

Hahaha.... do i? I envy you so much, because you have so much time to relax in your life now. What did you do in KL over last 14 years? Biz? I was stationed in Bangkok for 3 years on Automotive part supplies to OEM (Japs).

Do let me know if u plan to come over to KL. Would be happy to host you.
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the pics look good. Fog lights are designed more for supplmental light during bad weather, hence why yellow halogens work best. if you put hids in there, your probably notice your fogs will outshine your low beams, it might be kind of distracting.
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the pics look good. Fog lights are designed more for supplmental light during bad weather, hence why yellow halogens work best. if you put hids in there, your probably notice your fogs will outshine your low beams, it might be kind of distracting.
You are right. But, in Malaysia, only two different weather: Sunny and Rainny day. No 4 seasons. I hardly drive up to the mountain roads.

Both of my (head light and fog lights) HID colours are 4,300K temp. So, it is good enough for bad rainny day (day or night).

Anything above this colour temp (i.e. 6,000K onwards) would not be suitable for bad weather.
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my bixenon low beam is so bright that activation of my fog lights (halogen)
isn't even noticeable.
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How much does it cost one Michelin (same profile as yours) in your region? What tyre size you use?

Hahaha.... do i? I envy you so much, because you have so much time to relax in your life now. What did you do in KL over last 14 years? Biz? I was stationed in Bangkok for 3 years on Automotive part supplies to OEM (Japs).

Do let me know if u plan to come over to KL. Would be happy to host you.
My Tires are Michelin Pilot Exalto PE 2 - 225/50/16 - Cost 600 Ringgit each in South Africa - can get some discount, maybe 15% - Look on TireRack website for consumer ratings. One of the best - see they no longer sell my size in America - don't know why.
Car came with 205/55/16 but 225/50/16 was always option new in Europe so I fit them - better.

I work for Caltex for 37 years! Will look you up if I come to Malaysia. You, Gan & me go out on town - hahaha! - there is now little Gan so Gan's wife must stay at home!!!! - You must look me up if you come to Cape Town.
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You are right. But, in Malaysia, only two different weather: Sunny and Rainny day. No 4 seasons. I hardly drive up to the mountain roads.

Both of my (head light and fog lights) HID colours are 4,300K temp. So, it is good enough for bad rainny day (day or night).

Anything above this colour temp (i.e. 6,000K onwards) would not be suitable for bad weather.
Like Singapore - One season - Hot, Humid, Chance of rain
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the pics look good. Fog lights are designed more for supplmental light during bad weather, hence why yellow halogens work best. if you put hids in there, your probably notice your fogs will outshine your low beams, it might be kind of distracting.
Mike - you seem knowledgeable about these things - My car has the standard factory Bi Xenon set up with clear matching fogs -self leveling, light washers & all. I find this standard set up excellent. I can see forever at night and the fogs work fine in fog which we suffer in Cape Town. They almost allow you to see under the fog due to their position, dispersion & selected power. I feel confident driving at night & in fog with due caution.

A lot of people on this forum seem to mess with lights. Now - I can see why they might find their modifications aesthetically pleasing and thats fine but not my question. My question is - do you think that one can make really useful & meaningful improvements to the standard Bi Xenon set up and if so what?

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