djliku

I'm getting a Black C230K 6 speed with AMG rims. They are saying $32,800. We are trying for $32,000. Does that sound about right? It's not leather, it's just the 6 speed, CD Changer, and AMG rims. I don't really like the sound of the system, it could be better. My dad's 2002 ML500 sounds really good. My mom's 2001 E320 Sport sounds good too. I'm just a little disappointed. Is there any hope of improving the sounds without changing out the whole system. Also are there any lowering springs out for it yet, or will springs from earlier models work? And last does anyone know of any aftermarket parts for this car yet? I've called everywhere and can't even find an exhaust.

bluec230

Hi there,
Congrats on the new car. Regarding what you brought up, are you getting the Bose system? That might help the sound system a bit. People generally say it's better than the stock system, but it doesn't live up to Bose systems on other Mercedes' cars. But there's an option. As far as price, you don't sound like you have many options at all! 32.8? I think somethings wrong, I'm getting an Orion Blue with Automatic, C5 premium (sunroof, leather, bose), C7 (17 inch wheels, and a whole bunch more), and COMAND navigation system for $31.2 before taxes! I can't imagine a CD changer and AMG wheels can be THAT expensive. Don't make that deal, if you gave me a week, I could find you a MUCH MUCH better deal. You're looking at a bone stock black c-coupe without even automatic as an option, and the dealer is trying to tell you a CD changer and new wheels are $8,000? Either you're getting ripped off, or you have options you're not listing. Perhaps the premium package? (Wait, you can't have the premium, you don't have leather, man what a bad deal) It's very simple, to figure out what you should pay, find the invoice price and add $700. You can almost always make that deal. As it stands right now, you're getting RIPPED OFF, I'm paying $2000 less and getting MUCH MUCH more.

djliku

Thanx, I forgot to mention sunroof, but that's $32,800 out the door. Including everything. The AMG rims are pretty expensive. I wanted the C7 but my dad only likes AMG cause my mom and my dad both have AMG rims.

bluec230

Look, if it includes sales tax, license, registration, then ok, that's a different deal (maybe) but even with the sunroof that's a BAD, BAD deal.

djliku

That includes sales tax, license, registration. heh that's what I meant by out the door cost.

MarkL

Sorry if I sound like I've got an "attitude", but in today's world, there's not much surprise about what a vehicle should cost.

Djliku:
Go to www.edmunds.com or www.kbb.com and look at the MSRP and invoice prices for the car and options. But, the AMG wheels probably won't be there so you'll have to know the MSRP (probably on mbusa.com). Add it all up, first MSRP then invoice. For sure, you shouldn't be paying over MSRP!! As far as negotiating a lower price, it's up to you and your dealer to see how far they'll move.

Also, the sticker's on the car! If you're going to pick it up, the MSRP is right there -- don't pay more! I don't get the issue, sorry.

MarkL

OK, I went to mbusa.com and checked the prices.

C230K 6-spd 24950
Destination 645
C2 995
CD Changer 775
AMG Wheels 1880 (or 2010 depending)
TOTAL 29245

I'm assuming you're getting C2 for the sunroof, not C5 (since you said no leather). I don't think anyone pays the full price for the CD. Anyway, I don't know what tax is in CA, but assume 6%. That takes the total to $31K. Title and registration, maybe $100? Looks like around $31200 or so, unless there's something else you didn't mention, or the wheels cost even more (maybe tires too?) Let us know.

Rick

I was under the impression that MOST dealers credit you for the take off's (wheels/tires) toward the purchase of the upgraded AMG rims and tires.

Assuming you got the 5 spoke AMG staggered rims......that's 2010 plus the cost of tires minus the credit for the take off's...you should get a better deal than "list list list price"....

DrMike

Take a look at the Edmunds site to get invoice price. You can get cars for 3% over invoice.

Margo

I am getting my C230 in about 10 days(!!!) and just got the final price: for Black, auto, C5, C7 and the HuberOptiK tint : $33,600. That is out the door. AZ sales tax is 7.7%, and our license/registration fees are very HIGH here. I am paying $470 for my plates. Title fee, $190. Destination charge $675. I would look for a better deal.

BigBadDad

Margo - When you get your car, let me know what you think of the HuberOptik tint. I didn't get my car done and am thinking it might be a good thing to take care of before summer comes. Is it a standard film or what? How dark is it?

Thanks - John

revstriker

Sounds like a good deal.
MSRP:
Car = 25615
C5 = 2700
C7 = 750
Auto = 1300
Destination = 675
TTL = 31040
Tax = 2390
Title = 190
Plates = 470 (ouch )
Tint = ?
Grand Total = 34090 (w/o tint)
Savings = 490 + cost of tint

(Prices from MBUSA.com)

jungleboy

Who are we kidding..this car is not worth over 30 thousand dollars. I'm beginning to believe that many posts on this site are from salesmen.

Mapman

Yeah, I'm a salesman. Not! A few choice options, and the C230 heads north of $30k pretty quickly. The one that I'm patiently waiting for will be well over $32k all in ("TT&L included" as they say in the biz). And I denied myself those way-cool power seats!

FWIW, its a 6-speed, C4, C5, C7 & CD changer.

Gary

I got mine for $31,200 and think it's a bargain

young

don't forget you get a lot of safety features that are included. i'd pay an extra $1000 for each of the following: the extra airbags, ESP, (BAS gets $500), (LATCH get $100). and you get free service for 4 years. you get lifetime roadside assistance. can't forget the smart key technology that makes the car virtually impossible to steal. that's worth some peace of mind.

so even if the cost goes over the (arbitrary) $30k mark, there are a lot of hidden value.

of course, i can't believe that a car in 2002 doesn't have a cdplayer standard... how much do they cost? $20 each if you sell a million cars?

MarkL

Nothing in this world is free. And, what is the actual cost to MB of the 4 services required during the 4 years? Less than $500-700? I'm pretty sure it's baked into the price of the car. I mean, I like that the service is "free", but I think I've already paid for it.

trench

Unfortuantely, the tax in CA is 8.25% and the registration is calculated based on some percentage of the vehicles worth (can't remember the exact value off the top of my head). I think the tax and licensing for my coupe will tack on about $2750 to the $30000 price. As apparantly occurs in AZ, they really stick it to us here, too. So the $32800 might be about right, although it seems a little high, but I don't know how much they're nailing you for the AMG rims and tires.

BT

jungleboy

Sorry. Just because you paid over 30k does not mean you have a bargain. There are many options out there. Don't overpay for this car. I just went down to the dealer and test drove. It's nice, but that is a lot of money for this car/engine.

young

yup. but its sunk cost. no matter what car you get, you're going to have to get the services done. so i meant that either way, built in cost or pay as you go for the services, you need to add it up. if you consider an acura for example, you should take into account that $500-700 difference. (actually, if you do oil changes every 3k miles, at $25/oil change - 12kmiles per year - comes to $400 for 4 years).

but then again, parts/repairs for the MB are much higher...

revstriker

You have the right to your opinion. I believe that what you get for just over 30K (with options) is a great deal, and a great car MB or no MB. Judging by how many people on this board alone either have, or are in the process of purchasing one, I would think that they agree.

young

if an apple costs $1 and someone gets it for .75¢, that's good. i keep thinking you're saying go get an orange. is that what you're saying?

or are you saying that the apple is inherently only worth .75¢? and everyone paying $1 is getting ripped off?

now i'm confusing myself.

greg230

hmmm, i may be mislead but i think i have the most expensive stock c230 on this board.... and i feel like i got a lot of car for my money

M.S.R.P. $25,615.00

Exterior Color
Black $0.00

Interior Color
Charcoal Leather1 (Leather included in C5 Premium Package.) $0.00

Options
5-Spd. Elect. Controlled Auto. Trans. details $1,300.00
C7: Wheel Package2 details $750.00
COMAND System w/o cassette3 details $2,080.00
Tele Aid System4 details $750.00

Packages
C1: Value Added Package details $1,225.00
C5: Premium Package details $2,700.00
Luxury Tax $0.00

Total $34,420.00

add to that the v60c kit as soon as my dealership gets in stock.

wow i guess all those years of being a poor kid in college has resulted in a backlash

greg

Black230

Hi, there congrats. You're probably are tired of reading the you could do better with price, but really, yes you could. I got a '02 Black C230 Coupe with the Panorama, Oyster leather, automatic and got the dealer to amazingly deal $875 on the car and with taxes and all it came out to $29K and change and this was back in late Nov. early Dec. with no lead time. DOn't be afraid to deal there are lots of Mercedes dealers out there that can give you a much better deal. You have to be as aggressive with your budget position as they are with trying to sell you the car.

jungleboy

Now that's what I'm talking about!!!!!