TVT_DESIGN

Well we've finally released our Phenolic Spacers for the M112 engines.

http://www.tvtdes********/inc/sdetail/977

Sets come with 2 spacers and 4 gaskets.

Mu9enx

oooh, very interesting; any idea what this "HP" amount is? my IAT is spiking p to 95+ out of nowwhere.. this would seem like a good mod.

TemjinX2

the spacers doesn't create more hp. it just allows the air to run slightly cooler, so you lose less hp from heat.

splinter

+1

bumpnzx3

splinter- what intake gaskets are those part numbers for in your attached picture? i am going to check part numbers for my intake gaskets to see if they are the same as you are showing. i really want to know if these phenolic spacers will work on my engine. i would think that MB would have used the same port spacing on all of their N/A engines- i would make sense for them to anyway.

bumpnzx3

blast- the numbers are the same aside from the first three. mine is 272- other than that, the part numbers are the same

Mu9enx

that's what i thought, but i clicked the link and this phrase got me, LOL.

"This results in a cooler intake charge and more HP."

TruTaing

Mine are in the mail. I'll keep yall posted about how it goes

Mu9enx

i thought you had phenolic spacers john? or did you add them to your mod sig before you bought them? lol. let me know how it goes, i need to do some more cooling mods; damn moreno valley is killing me with the heat!

TruTaing

I pre-ordered them Will install when I get them + get a chance though I still havent installed the LET UDPS... thats on the sig too, haha :P

TVT_DESIGN

Yes you are correct, they reduce HP loss, which would result in a HP gain if measured. How much? It will vary by engine and other variables. We've seen our IAT in the low 70's on a consistant basis.

If you have a stock airbox these will also help keep the bottom of it cooler.

WaveyKat

More more mods am getting this

PA_Pete

Now what are those? Are those stock MB gaskets, or are they stock MB spacers? What's the difference between what you have in the picture here and what TVT is offering? Also, are there any draw backs or negative effects with installing these spacers?

TVT_DESIGN

The black pieces are OEM gaskets. I'm not quite sure what they brown pieces are made from. Our spacers are yellow, color not important, and are made from G11 material.

There are no downfalls to using the product. Trutaing will be able to attest to the precision these pieces are cut to. I have to give props to my engineer and the CNC company I used for being dead on accurate with the final piece.

In case anyone is wondering, Phenolic Spacers range anywhere from 1/8" to 1"+. Thicker ones being used for carbs and thinner for EFI. With EFI, the thicker the spacer the longer the runners become. In the case of these motors we used 1/8" thick for two reasons. The first being that the stock runners are already extremely long and adding another 1/2" to each one could effect top end power. The other reason, and really the most important, is that the place where the AIR goes in can not be much higher then 1/8" without tapering the spacer. The AIR tube inserts at an angle and a thicker spacer would've caused interference.

A lot of time and work went into these. I'm positive everyone will be satisfied once they give them a try.

Saprissa

John,
those A 112 part numbers, I take it are for the C32.
Are they the same for the C320 N/A M112 ??


Carlos

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TVT_DESIGN

[QUOTE=Saprissa;3082443]John,
those A 112 part numbers, I take it are for the C32.
Are they the same for the C320 N/A M112 ??


These are for the N/A M112, not the C32.

PA_Pete

[QUOTE=TVT_DESIGN;3082729]Thank you for the quick response on defining what your product is. I'm going to guess that your spacers come with all of the required gaskets? Also, (sorry for all of these questions) does the torque spec change for the intake bolts?

Saprissa

right ! Understand the kit you are selling is for the N/A M112.

I was asking SPLINTER, however, if the pictures he posted of the A112 141 20 80 gaskets are specifically for the C32 or do those also work on the N/A M112 C320.

So to clarify.... TVT, does your kit include these OEM gaskets (A 112 141 20 80), if not, what gaskets do you use in your kit (part # / OEM or aftermarket)?

or is what SPLINTER pictured the part # for C32 only ?

thanks !

Carlos

Saprissa@aol.com

Saprissa

TVT,
i'm not trying to be a jerk about this. I have two C320's and want to make sure I have all the information about the gaskets, before I try your application. Thanks !

Carlos

Saprissa@aol.com

TVT_DESIGN

We sell OEM MB parts in the original packaging. A1121412080

The gaskets in Splinter's picture are not C32 gaskets, the part number is for the N/A gaskets.

The C32 has a completely different design that bends over the fuel rail.

splinter

You’re correct, Carlos. Sharp eyes you have.


The A 112 141 20 80 gaskets are the correct part(s) for the normally aspirated M112.xxx.







They’ve been serving the same purpose of sealing heat-attenuating phenolic spacers on at least one M112.961,
albeit with its slightly different upstream hardware:





Kindly forgive the treadjack, TVT_DESIGN.
I merely posted a picture of mine to perhaps generate interest in your product.

Mu9enx

i want these, but i'm going to have to wait for john to try em first!

TVT_DESIGN

I was actually wondering where you got the pic from Splinter. You posted on the other site, but with no explanation.

I didn't realize they were used in that part of the SC motor. Hmmm...

Saprissa

Thanks John.
In my C32 AMG engine adventure, I have seen many of these parts here and there, and it always catches my eye, when one part for the C32 is shared with the C320 and vice-versa.

As both my C320's are going to Stuttgart this December/January, one will get the AMG treatment, and the other is a candidate for this TVT application.

Thanks for the schematic photos !

Carlos

Saprissa@aol.com

kcheng86

hmm very interested tooo..how hard is it to install?