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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 01:40 PM
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DIY - Bleeding Brakes

For those who want to do it yourself, here you go ...

!!! A WARNING UP FRONT !!! - Brake fluid reacts very badly with paint!!! Guaranteed you will ruin any paint the brake fluid touches!!! Be very careful when you are moving any fluid containers over paint (i.e. you might want to bring the fluid to/from the engine compartment from the front of the car instead of over a fender, just in case ...).

I bought a 'power bleeder' for this job (and my other cars), and find it makes bleeding a lot easier - you put the new brake fluid in the power bleeder and pump it up. Then it's just a matter of bleeding at each corner and keeping an eye on the fluid in the reservior. Ideally, when you're finished bleeding all 4 wheels, there won't be any more fluid in the power bleeder and the level in the reservior will be at max or below.

The basic idea is to bleed the longest lines first, so the order to do this is passenger rear, driver's rear, passenger front, driver's front. With the power bleeder, the most time consuming part is jacking up each corner and taking off/putting on the wheels (you might be able to do without, but I wanted to check the brakes - doing the 60K mile maintenance).

Tools/materials:

- clear bottle(s) for draining old brake fluid into
- small hose (1/4"??) for draining fluid from bleeder nipple into bottle
- 9mm wrench for openning/closing bleeder nipples
- 1 liter of DOT 4 brake fluid
- Power Bleeder (I got a Motive, but there are other brands)

The basic procedure is:

1) Take off the cover over the brake fluid resevior (turn the 2 fasteners near the windshield 90 degrees, the front attachment point just slides out).

2) Unscrew the cap from the brake fluid reservior and screw on the cap from the power bleeder.

3) Put ~3/4 liter of DOT 4 brake fluid into the power bleeder, put cap on power bleeder, and pump up to ~10 psi.

4) Jack up passenger rear of car, take off tire, attach hose to bleeder nipple, put other end of hose in bottle, and then crack open bleeder valve just a bit (1/4 to 1/2 turn should be plenty - if you open it too much, fluid will seep past the threads on the nipple). If you're using a clear bottle and have the hose drain the fluid down the side of the bottle, I found that the dirty fluid will stay on the bottom and the new/clean fluid will stay on the top ... so when I got a nice layer of clear fluid on the top I knew I was done with that corner. Tighten the bleeder nipple (not too tight - don't strip it), put the wheel back on, and move on to the next wheel.

5) Repeat #4 for other 3 corners of car HOWEVER you need to keep an eye on the fluid in the reservior, the fluid in the power bleeder, and you need to keep the bleeder pumped up to ~10 psi. Add more fluid if necessary, but you don't want to have too much fluid in there or you'll have to bleed the extra out in the end.

6) When you're on the front wheels, you want to try to guesstimate on the fluid so that there will be none left in the bleeder and the fluid will be below the Max line in the reservior.

7) When all 4 corners (wheels) are done, and you've made certain the brake fluid level is below the max line, relieve pressure by unscrewing the top of the power bleeder, remove the bleeder cap from the reservior, top off if necessary, put the cap on the reservior, put the cover over the reservior back on, and you're done!!!

The first pics are: The Power Bleeder itself, the whole power bleeding setup, and the cap on the reservior.
Attached Thumbnails DIY - Bleeding Brakes-motive.jpg   DIY - Bleeding Brakes-mightyvacandres.jpg   DIY - Bleeding Brakes-reswadapt.jpg  

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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 01:43 PM
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Next pics are: bleeding a rear brake, the brake fluid I used and clean fluid in the reservior (so clean you can hardly see it in there), and the old fluid in an old coke bottle.

In the picture of bleeding the rear brake, you can kind of see how the fluid is darker at the bottom of the bottle than at the top. I have the bottle leaning a bit (careful not to spill ...) so the fluid slides down the side of the bottle to avoid stirring. When I saw it coming out clean, I knew I was good.

Note that 1 liter is about the perfect amout of brake fluid for a flush. I had just a tad left in the can when finished. Cheers!!!
Attached Thumbnails DIY - Bleeding Brakes-bleeding.jpg   DIY - Bleeding Brakes-fluidres.jpg   DIY - Bleeding Brakes-oldfluid.jpg  

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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 04:40 PM
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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 06:43 PM
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I'm interested in trying this, yet worry about the bleeder valves. My car is 9yo and seen Canadian winters, so what happens if these are rusted shut? or if I snap one off while trying to loosen it?

I need a worst case scenario - can just the bleeder valves be replaced, or will the whole caliper need replacing?
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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 01:21 AM
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I think your worst nightmare would be stripping the bleeder valve - which is why I use a 'tubing' wrench (basically a box end wrench with a slot cut out just big enough for the brake line to fit through). The bleeder valve can be replaced without having to replace the entire caliper.
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Old Mar 9, 2011 | 01:36 AM
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even worse than damaging your paint is getting brake fluid in your eyes which can severely and permanently damage your eyes.

ALWAYS WEAR SAFETY GLASSES when working with this stuff

It is not hard to get a random splash of this in your eyes
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 09:51 PM
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just using DOT 4? I thought MB calls for a special low viscosity DOT4. Only available at dealership. I just flushed with a liter of standard Dot4. Thought I did a great job, only to find my abs and skid control warning comes on. Thats when I read up on it. Do I need to reflush with MB DOT4+ or is my problem from another cause.. I did remove and reinstall front hub. I did not change the seal/tone ring. Help!
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 10:38 PM
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A lot of people use ATE Super Blue brake fluid. The color makes it real easy to see when they are fully bled. I use ATE SL.6 because it is DOT 4+ and is low viscosity. I haven't heard any problems associated with Super Blue, so I assume it is just fine.
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 10:47 PM
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I thought the manual just called for DOT 4, but could be mistaken (don't have access to the manual at the moment). There's a picture of what I used above. I didn't use Super Blue because my radiator fluid is blue, but otherwise would have. If you guys find out these cars are picky on the brake fluid let me know so I can change it above.
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Originally Posted by mtnman82
I thought the manual just called for DOT 4, but could be mistaken (don't have access to the manual at the moment). There's a picture of what I used above. I didn't use Super Blue because my radiator fluid is blue, but otherwise would have. If you guys find out these cars are picky on the brake fluid let me know so I can change it above.

My manual says DOT4
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Been using ATE Super Blue for about 2 years now with no problem. But I just bough ATE SL.6 and plan on switching to that since its ESP specific
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Old Jul 13, 2014 | 01:49 AM
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https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...uid-flush.html
Seems like a nice deal (after DIY I guess).

Was lurking on the E-class forums and saw this.
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Old Jul 13, 2014 | 01:07 PM
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I would be cautious about this. DOT 5 fluid is usually silicone (I'm not aware of any other type of DOT 5 fluid). Silicone fluid tends to be thicker than glycol based fluids. Current ABS and ESP systems required thin fluid. Silicone fluid is also more difficult to bleed and tends to give a more spongy pedal.

I would advise good glycol fluids blended specifically for new ABS and ESP systems.
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BTW guys:
https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...uid-flush.html
Seems like a nice deal (after DIY I guess).

Was lurking on the E-class forums and saw this.
I set up the appointment at my local Sears Auto Center and received an email that the appointment had been automatically canceled. I called them and was told "we do not work on Mercedes-Benz vehicles".
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Obviously Sears is looking out for you, Matt!
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I called them back and got an explanation. My local store does not have the proper machine to pressurize the system to remove the old fluid. But the store near my office does.

Score.
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Take some pics if you can

I flushed mine 10 months ago so cannot take advantage of this offer.
Hope it's still around next year.
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