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Old 03-22-2005, 01:55 AM
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I was thinking about that for my C230k but then i realized it would only then be equal to a C240 so I stopped that plan

There is something wrong with the M271 motor for a C240 really does leave it for dead.... over and over again.
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Lol you guys, it's me Flip. No the videos were shot at a secret location in San Jose, CA... I've posted this on other forums, but here's more relevant information:

-I did your little "double blind" test and i TRIED to kick my car's own *** twice to no avail, I lost both times (and usually the person saying "Go" reacts faster to the throttle).
-His car had 1/2 a tank of gas
-My car had full tank of gas..
-He had great tread, I had poor tread (past the legal wear mark).
-ESP was off on both cars, made sure when we switched as well.
-Finally, My car is pushing 36K.. his? Barely 6K.
-I have an Eisenmann 2x83mm Hi-Perf.
-The Kit consists of Water/Crank Pulley, Fuel Pressure Regulator, Belt & Kbox.

How was the camera mounted? I stuffed a pair of khakis on the dash, crumpled them up and stuck the camera in the middle, I wasn't even sure these videos would come out right, but they did. Other times the camera just flew back at me like a rock aiming at the wrong place you know what I mean?

Any other questions or comments? I'll be here all week (albeit pretty busy, no stunt driving any time soon). PLEASE thank Tom for uploading and compressing these, he took a lot of time to bring forth the raw Kleemann power haha.

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Originally Posted by mig888
Lol you guys, it's me Flip. No the videos were shot at a secret location in San Jose, CA... I've posted this on other forums, but here's more relevant information:

-I did your little "double blind" test and i TRIED to kick my car's own *** twice to no avail, I lost both times (and usually the person saying "Go" reacts faster to the throttle).
-His car had 1/2 a tank of gas
-My car had full tank of gas..
-He had great tread, I had poor tread (past the legal wear mark).
-ESP was off on both cars, made sure when we switched as well.
-Finally, My car is pushing 36K.. his? Barely 6K.
-I have an Eisenmann 2x83mm Hi-Perf.
-The Kit consists of Water/Crank Pulley, Fuel Pressure Regulator, Belt & Kbox.
ah ha! so you car was not stock! i was gonna say, the kleeman is only getting 1-2 car lengths on you?

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How was the camera mounted? I stuffed a pair of khakis on the dash, crumpled them up and stuck the camera in the middle, I wasn't even sure these videos would come out right, but they did. Other times the camera just flew back at me like a rock aiming at the wrong place you know what I mean?
LoL! :p nice rig. i'm gonna try jamming a camera under a headrest tomorrow and seeing if it will stay.
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Any other questions or comments? I'll be here all week (albeit pretty busy, no stunt driving any time soon). PLEASE thank Tom for uploading and compressing these, he took a lot of time to bring forth the raw Kleemann power haha.

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Thanks Tom!!
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I hope there isn't any confusion in my above post. I'm the DRIVER of the Kleemann'ized car. When I'm stating phrases starting in "My" I am referring to the car with the camera mounted on the dash. That other trailing car is PURELY stock 2005 C230K SS, with no modifications AT ALL. My car on the other hand has an eisenmann, kleemann kit, and a few extra goodies unrelated to engine performance.

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woah! that's awesome. how much did you pay for the kit?

the gain looks totally significant. I want it now. at least this is proven, we haven't heard about the evosport pulley it in a while...
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This isn't supposed to be a killer kit where standard SS sedans will be smoked by 8 car lengths. It's just an overall increase in power (~20hp +5 maybe) managed carefully with that K-Box and FPR. It's a beautiful kit and does it's job of "comfort power". Gives me that extra kick when I need it and the thought that I know it's there.

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The kit is $1600 MSRP + tax + shipping + install.. you're looking at a good investment, of course all of these vary (and possibly don't exist), and I'm not stating much more than that! . Ultimately it also depends if this kit still exists... I bought it ASAP.

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Now wait a second, do these videos count as Kill Stories? Feel kinda bad beating another merc...Haha.

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Originally Posted by mig888
I hope there isn't any confusion in my above post. I'm the DRIVER of the Kleemann'ized car. When I'm stating phrases starting in "My" I am referring to the car with the camera mounted on the dash. That other trailing car is PURELY stock 2005 C230K SS, with no modifications AT ALL. My car on the other hand has an eisenmann, kleemann kit, and a few extra goodies unrelated to engine performance.

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oh. yeah i was confused. anyway... how bout a video of your exhaust revving? eisenmann's are my favorite.
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nukblazi if you need any more webspace for vids let me know. i would make you an ftp account to my webspace
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Originally Posted by mig888
The kit is $1600 MSRP + tax + shipping + install.. you're looking at a good investment, of course all of these vary (and possibly don't exist), and I'm not stating much more than that! . Ultimately it also depends if this kit still exists... I bought it ASAP.

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Flip,

Where in the bay did you get this installed?
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Originally Posted by CynCarvin32
I was thinking about that for my C230k but then i realized it would only then be equal to a C240 so I stopped that plan

There is something wrong with the M271 motor for a C240 really does leave it for dead.... over and over again.
Equal to a C240? I'm confused. Doesn't the C230k have more power (regardless of the M271 OR M111 engine)? Were you referring to the 320 or is this from past experience with a C240 in essence "beating a 230k up"?
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Originally Posted by drexappeal
Equal to a C240? I'm confused. Doesn't the C230k have more power (regardless of the M271 OR M111 engine)? Were you referring to the 320 or is this from past experience with a C240 in essence "beating a 230k up"?
Yeah that guys' post confused me so I didn't comment haha. Install was done at Topline Automobile - a Kleemann authorized installer of whom I trust my whole car with. If anyone gets ANYTHING done there, tell Zim that Jose says hi (since I brought you there hehe).

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Originally Posted by drexappeal
Equal to a C240? I'm confused. Doesn't the C230k have more power (regardless of the M271 OR M111 engine)? Were you referring to the 320 or is this from past experience with a C240 in essence "beating a 230k up"?
The C240 is a dog with 169 HP I think. No C230 Komp. sohould lose to it. With the M111 Pulley, you're faster than a stock C320.

mouze, I will send you a PM in a little bit, thank you.

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The C240 is a dog with 169 HP I think. No C230 Komp. sohould lose to it. With the M111 Pulley, you're faster than a stock C320.

mouze, I will send you a PM in a little bit, thank you.

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Thanks, nukblazi. I was starting to wonder if I made a semi-smart choice buying my 230k SS.

Unfortunately, I can't get the M111 pulley kit cuz I've got a 2004.5, so I'm still waiting to see what the results are on the M271 pulley kit from Evosport, but it's interesting to see the Kleeman kit in action. The Kleeman kit is still a lot less expensive than I thought it would be.
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I just mentioned the M111 because Flip (mig) hadn't done the 320 or 330 comparo yet. Should be close (M271 - M111 w/pulley), so as a reference point.

Over a more costly slowly C240. I think you made the right choice unless you can afford to Kleemannize the C240.
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Hold on is the car with the kleeman kit a c240 or a c230K?? I thought a M271 is the c230 ss egnine... or am i getting something wrong here? What kinda engine is on the c240?
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the C240 has a V6, but it's got less horses than either kompressor (M111 or M271)

if that 20hp is at the wheels, I'd hit it $1600 isn't bad. I doubt there are any installers in HI though *sad*
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Ah thx for the info, but wut kinda car is the 1 with the Kleeman kit?
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Both cars in the video are C230 sedans. Both have the M271, 1.8L engine. One has the Kleeman pulley kit + ECU control box.
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Cool. I am definitely going to get the Kleemann pulley kit now... and header, when it comes out...


Nice work!
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do u think there will ever be a performance kit made for the C320? I bought the 320 because i wanted more power, but now that the 230's got all this going for it, i feel left out
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do u think there will ever be a performance kit made for the C320? I bought the 320 because i wanted more power, but now that the 230's got all this going for it, i feel left out
renntech makes a kit, 404hp
http://www.renntechmercedes.com/pdf/W203.PDF
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I've heard rumors that there'll be a run of Flip's M271K SS vs. pullied M111 auto vs. pulied M111 6-spd. Is this still in the radar?
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Originally Posted by MooflesThaCat
do u think there will ever be a performance kit made for the C320? I bought the 320 because i wanted more power, but now that the 230's got all this going for it, i feel left out
Kleemann also has a little something for you...

http://www.kleemann.dk/site/D73BB20B...0-FBAD205206BF


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