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<<< Performance Headers for W203 C320 V6 >>>
Hello Everyone,
We are proud to finally announce our performance headers are now available for sale. They have been quite some time in the making but it was worth the wait as we went through numerous prototypes and now the final production version is complete. AMS is proud to finally offer an affordable high quality Stainless Steel header for the W203 community. We are still updating our website so bear with us; for more information and pictures feel free to check out our website:
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In addition, we are looking for a dyno tester for our V6 header. We will give an additional discount for those willing to participate in our Dyno Rewards program (strict rules apply so email before ordering). We have a few sets left at the moment, for those interested in being a dyno tester please email us via our website or MBworld email.
Thanks,
~AMS~
We are proud to finally announce our performance headers are now available for sale. They have been quite some time in the making but it was worth the wait as we went through numerous prototypes and now the final production version is complete. AMS is proud to finally offer an affordable high quality Stainless Steel header for the W203 community. We are still updating our website so bear with us; for more information and pictures feel free to check out our website:
<<< AMS Performance Headers >>>
In addition, we are looking for a dyno tester for our V6 header. We will give an additional discount for those willing to participate in our Dyno Rewards program (strict rules apply so email before ordering). We have a few sets left at the moment, for those interested in being a dyno tester please email us via our website or MBworld email.
Thanks,
~AMS~
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our 271 headers are still in development but won't be out till middle of 09 most likely since we still have many products in the pipeline ahead of the M271 headers, but we may have something else available for your car sooner than you thing (not dropping any clues but I think you may like it 
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our 271 headers are still in development but won't be out till middle of 09 most likely since we still have many products in the pipeline ahead of the M271 headers, but we may have something else available for your car sooner than you thing (not dropping any clues but I think you may like it ).
).Awesome! I'll be waiting
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Hmm.. 100 bux less than VRP's holiday sale price right now. I was just speaking w/ Vadim via PM and he stated that the 1.75" diameter for the exhaust outlets are too large for the NA m112. Is AMS under this same impression?
The design of these headers are also very similar to the stock headers. What do these headers offer that makes them perform better than stock?
The design of these headers are also very similar to the stock headers. What do these headers offer that makes them perform better than stock?
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http://www.dyno.com.au/dyno/controller/locator
Please email us if interested for further details. Thanks
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Hmm.. 100 bux less than VRP's holiday sale price right now. I was just speaking w/ Vadim via PM and he stated that the 1.75" diameter for the exhaust outlets are too large for the NA m112. Is AMS under this same impression?
The design of these headers are also very similar to the stock headers. What do these headers offer that makes them perform better than stock?
The design of these headers are also very similar to the stock headers. What do these headers offer that makes them perform better than stock?
No we do not share that same viewpoint, we feel the NA M112 can use the extra breathing room. It is quite common to use 1.75" primaries for 6-cyl engines, in fact the M3 performance headers are 1.75" and thats only a 3.0L (S50) so to say 1.75" is too much is not necessarily correct, it all depends on how its done, especially if the car has a decent amount of mods the engine can actually benefit significantly. The stock primary openings are a choking 1.4".
It is a similar style shorty as the stock one (i.e. not a long tube header design) and is a direct bolt-on design. They are obviously larger diameter piping, port & polished openings and much smoother curve merges between the primaries & the main down tube versus stock, which is basically 90* perpendicular.
Hope that helps.
~AMS~
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...a panty dropper...
If there were to be a group buy how much a price difference would there be? Also I am curious why you went for the shorty style rather than an evosport style, is there more gains in your headers or do you think they are close to the same regardless that yours are half the cost?
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If you send us a set we'll throw them on a 320 car and compare them to the VRP headers we just installed.
We're going for the dyno hopefully next week.
I think that would be the best possible comparison.
Same day, same dyno, two different sets of headers...
We're going for the dyno hopefully next week.
I think that would be the best possible comparison.
Same day, same dyno, two different sets of headers...
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The only discount we offer for a single item is if you participate in our Dyno Rewards Program. If you dyno it both before, install pulley, wait 7 days to allow ECU to adapt, then dyno after on a DYNO DYNAMICS brand dyno we will forward you $100 credit after you provide the dyno results to us. This will only be valid for the first couple of dynos for each of our stages.
AMS does not accept any other dyno brand other than Dyno Dynamics as it is the most accurate loading dyno giving the most realistic real world results possible. Besides that, all savings are done via our performance packages.
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AMS does not accept any other dyno brand other than Dyno Dynamics as it is the most accurate loading dyno giving the most realistic real world results possible. Besides that, all savings are done via our performance packages.
Thanks
~AMS~
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From the AMS website...."Our headers are made from T304
stainless steel and they are TIG welded for maximum strength. We also
has incorporated thicker gauge tubing as well as thicker one piece flanges..."
The AMS products look like quality products. Too bad I already have a set of LET log-style headers in mild steel on my C32K. They look a bit similar in design, but the I'd take SS over ceramic coated mild steel.
Edit: My LET headers are not exactly the same. Similar log style and primary tube size.
stainless steel and they are TIG welded for maximum strength. We also
has incorporated thicker gauge tubing as well as thicker one piece flanges..."
The AMS products look like quality products. Too bad I already have a set of LET log-style headers in mild steel on my C32K. They look a bit similar in design, but the I'd take SS over ceramic coated mild steel.
Edit: My LET headers are not exactly the same. Similar log style and primary tube size.
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Previous reference to exhaust materials was pilfered from Burns Stainless, a respected Southern California supplier to the high performance community and other racing incorrigibles. To wit:
"Within the 300 series of stainless steels, there are four types that are suitable, available and cost effective for the racer…
321 and 347 are known as stabilized grades of stainless. These are alloyed with either titanium (321) or columbium (347), both of which have a much stronger affinity for carbon than does chromium at elevated temperatures. This eliminates carbide precipitation leaving the chromium where it belongs for corrosion protection...remember our discussion of intergranular corrosion? Both 321 and 347 are top choices for exhaust headers, especially turbocharger systems and rotary engines. Since 321 is much more available than 347, that leaves 321 as the first choice, with no sacrifice in needed qualities.
316L is an extra low carbon (ELC) grade of stainless that has only .03% carbon, making less carbon available to precipitate with the chromium. It is used extensively in marine exhausts where salt water corrosion mixed with diesel exhaust particulates and electrolysis create such a horrible environment that even other grades of stainless cower and run away!
304 is the most inexpensive and available stainless in the 300 series. It is suitable for normally-aspirated header applications, and has been successfully used by many racing teams. It does not have the high temperature fatigue resistance that 321 does, but is considerably less costly and much more available. Most 304 tubing these days has the dual designation of 304/304L."
source: http://www.burnsstainless.com/TechAr...s_article.html
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our 271 headers are still in development but won't be out till middle of 09 most likely since we still have many products in the pipeline ahead of the M271 headers, but we may have something else available for your car sooner than you thing (not dropping any clues but I think you may like it ).
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In addition, Our headers are double welded both inside & out in key areas to ensure maximum strength and prevent cracking. The headers are also 16 gauge tubing as well so they should do just fine under forced induction applications as well.
Thanks for the positive input guys, We have a few members have contacted us to be potential testers so we will see where that leads, in the meanwhile our V8 headers are being tested and results will be out by end of the month.
AMS will be closed for the holidays from the 16th to the end of the month but we will still check our email as much as possible so if you have any further questions feel free to shoot us an email. The headers will start shipping after the 1st of the year, we just wanted to get the word out now so people knew about them in advance in case they wanted to prepare for them.
The majority of the gains will be achieved via stage 2 honestly, Stage 3 will add a bit more performance but the bulk of performance usually achieved by crank pulley & headers. Software is always a nice boost but its never the biggest power gainer (unless you are talking about a turbocharged car, which is totally different story).
Thanks,
~AMS~
Thanks for the positive input guys, We have a few members have contacted us to be potential testers so we will see where that leads, in the meanwhile our V8 headers are being tested and results will be out by end of the month.
AMS will be closed for the holidays from the 16th to the end of the month but we will still check our email as much as possible so if you have any further questions feel free to shoot us an email. The headers will start shipping after the 1st of the year, we just wanted to get the word out now so people knew about them in advance in case they wanted to prepare for them.
The majority of the gains will be achieved via stage 2 honestly, Stage 3 will add a bit more performance but the bulk of performance usually achieved by crank pulley & headers. Software is always a nice boost but its never the biggest power gainer (unless you are talking about a turbocharged car, which is totally different story).
Thanks,
~AMS~
