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Old 12-27-2008, 07:23 AM
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Question m111 possible misfire? or else...

ASP is fun, but lately I kind of have feeling like some kind of missfire but it is very slight when I push the car hard at the freeway entrance. This happen to the acceleration at 2500 rpm to 3000 rpm only for less than half a secon. This sensation is so light the passenger wouln't feel it,but I do.That is not long enough and hard enough to trigger a the cell, no codes, nothing.
MAF is cleaned, two steps colder plugs (NGK-- 5691) have less than 5000 miles. Fuel filter has 10 months, intake filter has 8.
Throttle reset seems to solve the problem... for 4 to 5 days. now it's back.
Can that be someting else? like the belt slips or clogged cat but I doubt it since it does not do that at 3000 rpm and up. It is hard for me to tell with no mecanical skills or knowledge. Please advise.
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ps: or I'm just paranoid? hope not.
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Could be a wonky TPS - (throttle position sensor). If you are throwing no misfire codes it could be the start of TPS trouble - Fairly common. No we don't think you are paranoid - just sensitive to what your car is doing & that's good. Can be the start of coilpack & wire problems but you should get a code.

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I drive a Toyota Hybrid...
always wanna drive a brand new 02 M111 C230 coupe and then compare back to mine and see what had happened
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Thats how it starts when a Coil pack fails.
The ECU counts the number of misfires. It has to be like 20 out of 600 to trigger a CEL. Less than that, you feel it but it doesn't throw a code. Eventually it will throw a code, keep a spare CP with you.
Also check the seal on the MAF after you cleaned it. I use an oring from the hardware store (Plumbing dept.) to seal it. Put your hand near. Is it blowing air? I did that after cleaning last time, leaking. Fixed now.

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Thx for the reply guys, I will order the set of packsand change all of them once anf for all, at least for a litle while. Also, last time I cleaned the MAF, There was already an O ring that seals it; however, I'll check again tomrrow morning just to make sure.
Today I floored it at freeway entrance, it did again, stronger, at about 2,800RPM. I felt it like 2 or 3 only. The thing that I cannot understand is that It wont missfire above 3000RPM or under 2500. Did not reed line but shifted at 5500RPM. It would make more sens if I dah more misfire at higher RPM no?
I nkow that for the M111, the E. M45 kick in after 2500 RPM I wonder if it is related somehow.
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Originally Posted by spyderpig
Thx for the reply guys, I will order the set of packsand change all of them once anf for all, at least for a litle while. Also, last time I cleaned the MAF, There was already an O ring that seals it; however, I'll check again tomrrow morning just to make sure.
Today I floored it at freeway entrance, it did again, stronger, at about 2,800RPM. I felt it like 2 or 3 only. The thing that I cannot understand is that It wont missfire above 3000RPM or under 2500. Did not reed line but shifted at 5500RPM. It would make more sens if I dah more misfire at higher RPM no?
I nkow that for the M111, the E. M45 kick in after 2500 RPM I wonder if it is related somehow.
Before you waste all that money on coil packs get hold of an OBD scanner. You might not be getting a CEL but there might be misfire codes stored. Frequently it's just the wires & not the coils. Diagnose before throwing money at it.
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I have an obd and no codes stored at all. Also checked seal of the MAF, ok. To check the coils I will takte it to the shop. If I get a set, that will be handy later on.
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If you intend keeping your baby - coil packs wont go amiss
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Drive it until you get a code. It could also be a wiring harness like others have said.
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I guess I am gonne keep it for a while, seems like I cannot let it go at many occasions. Faster cars or greater value cars, that I tried and liked couldn not make me dump that one. The mini couper S almost got me for the thrill but since this was and still is my first car, it is more sentimental eventhough I am not that sensitive.
I tried the Celica GT typr R few years ago and could'nt see myself in it. I considered the civic Si by the body but when I saw the interior, took a step back. Travelled to LA with the 335 convrt, what a great car but had a back pain only after 2 hour drive.

I had few little issues with that baby in the past but it's worth it, so I am gonna stick with it longer.
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Originally Posted by spyderpig
I guess I am gonne keep it for a while, seems like I cannot let it go at many occasions. Faster cars or greater value cars, that I tried and liked couldn not make me dump that one. The mini couper S almost got me for the thrill but since this was and still is my first car, it is more sentimental eventhough I am not that sensitive.
I tried the Celica GT typr R few years ago and could'nt see myself in it. I considered the civic Si by the body but when I saw the interior, took a step back. Travelled to LA with the 335 convrt, what a great car but had a back pain only after 2 hour drive.

I had few little issues with that baby in the past but it's worth it, so I am gonna stick with it longer.
Good! - we do get attached to the darn things - my car has been a delight with Zero hassles & every time I think about a W204 I feel like a traitor.

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