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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 01:58 AM
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TEIN or H&R

going to buy springs soon. thier price diff is just 32 bucks. which set is better? i might cut the springs. as you can see my height is almost coke can high in the wheel well. really ugly. i need your recommendations.
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 02:02 AM
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H&R, H&R, H&R!!! i cut a full coil up front not rough at all!!! i would get struts with it KONI yellows are a good bet!!!
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 03:14 AM
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The H&R springs are progressive rate and are stiffer than stock. Setup with the Bilstein sport shock for lowered setup as the OEM is too tall. It gives a nice but firm ride and carves corners real well. don't forget a good pancake spring compressor for the job about $200 bucks on Ebay. the H&R will take out about 1.3 to 1.4 inches in height. Its a better way to go than a coil cut and only about $260.00 from Tire Rack.com.
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 03:42 AM
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h&r's with one full coil cut up front with koni yellows!!! my setup
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 01:01 PM
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isnt it ok if i stick to stock shocks for awhile??
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 01:15 PM
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H&R but if you want problem go with Tein!
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by mbcollector
isnt it ok if i stick to stock shocks for awhile??
i think you can stick with the shocks, but then itll wear out cuz the spring rates change (different from OEM springs)

i know what you mean man, those koni yellows are hella expensive!

if you decide on spring/shock combo, an alternative to h&r springs with koni yellows is the h&r cup kit...

both i think are around the same price...
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 02:31 PM
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Save your money and get coilovers so you don't go wasting anything by cutting things up or risk breaking your oem stock struts. Trust me its more worth it in the long run and you can always regulate the height if you don't want to ride slammed everywhere you go.
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 02:35 PM
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well i think it all depends on you...


if its for cosmetics, for regular everyday drive, i don't think it's really worth spendin 1k on coilovers...i guess sport springs is good enough

if its for performance, better cornering, tracking, then definitely go for the coilovers
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 02:43 PM
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thanks rocafela! yeah im not really after performance just looks. coz as you can see in the pic my car looks like a d*mn 4WD car. i just want the tires to be even with the wheel well. im thinking 1 coil cut. do i need anything else like spacers bushings bla bla bla??? im doing a DIY on it.
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by rocafel1a
well i think it all depends on you...


if its for cosmetics, for regular everyday drive, i don't think it's really worth spendin 1k on coilovers...i guess sport springs is good enough

if its for performance, better cornering, tracking, then definitely go for the coilovers
Well if you cut your springs on stock struts, lets just say that I would take coilovers over that setup in terms of ride quality for everyday driving. Cut springs + blown struts = one bumpy ride. Plus you get a better cosmetic factor with coilovers with the fact that you can drop ALOT further than on JUST springs. As well if you ever want to go back to stock you will still have your perfectly good oem struts and springs and you can sell your coilovers for a pretty penny I don't know I see more pros than cons with coilovers
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by pogijeffrey
h&r's with one full coil cut up front with koni yellows!!! my setup
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considering the recent discussions about tein basics, i'd stick with H&R springs.
especially if your planning on cutting. i remember reading members didn't like the tein springs after cutting. if your not cutting, tein springs on stock sport shocks should'nt be too much of a difference on the shocks. the drop is supposedly minimal though (1/4" maybe? ) for '05 and up on the stock sport suspension which is why the sport suspension shocks should be okay.

are the tein springs the same springs used in the basics?
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 04:07 PM
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HA! i just remembered! im gonna get my tax refund! so now im looking to buy new or used coilovers, H&R or TEIN(not basics).
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by CoupeCrazy03
Well if you cut your springs on stock struts, lets just say that I would take coilovers over that setup in terms of ride quality for everyday driving. Cut springs + blown struts = one bumpy ride. Plus you get a better cosmetic factor with coilovers with the fact that you can drop ALOT further than on JUST springs. As well if you ever want to go back to stock you will still have your perfectly good oem struts and springs and you can sell your coilovers for a pretty penny I don't know I see more pros than cons with coilovers

dont get me wrong or anythin, not trying to choose springs over coilovers...i mean id def go wit the coilovers for suspension work, but alota ppl (like me ) have limited budget who cant afford coilsover at the moment but still want to drop the car...
if i were to go for springs, i would not cut my springs at all...but as ocd as i am about gaps in the front, i probably wouldn't have a choice but to do so in the long run...

ive been through this spring/coilover dilemma since forever...

i still haven't decided which route to take...
for a jobless college student (prob know how i feel), its hard to get the money...



BUT backto the topic,

coilovers > springs
if you can save up money, have the money, so on...
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 11:21 AM
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I have Tein Basic COs on one W203 and cut Eibach springs with Bilstein sport shocks on my other W203. I have to say, I like my ghetto setup better as it's less stiffed and cheaper

I cut 3/4 coil F and 1/2 coil R with pad #1

But yeah, if money is not a problem, get a fully adjustable COs
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by daiso'
H&R, H&R, H&R!!! i cut a full coil up front not rough at all!!! i would get struts with it KONI yellows are a good bet!!!
FINALLY!

How you like it? I'd just stick to OEM sport shocks
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 11:49 AM
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H&R with 1 full coil cut up front
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 12:34 PM
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 04:20 PM
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I say go for coilovers. I think trutraing is selling his tein co. I remeber it was a pretty good deal not sure if he still has it, since I remember him getting the h&r/koni shocks for $150 bucks on myonline!
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 08:11 PM
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what a steal! $150!!!!
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by mbcollector
isnt it ok if i stick to stock shocks for awhile??
Nope, I did Bilsteins and HR springs last summer to fix an alignment issue I've been having. Road comfort of the same but wheel gap is very little.
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 02:05 PM
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ehhh, i think coilovers solve all the headache problems and confusion...it kills 2 birds with one stone...

go for the h&r coilovers...ive been saving up for awhile...
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