Bordeaux Red scared about 6 speed
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Bordeaux Red scared about 6 speed
I want to buy the C230K in a 6 speed but after looking at some of the posts from people about all of the problems with them, I'm getting quite scared. I am the type of person that does not drive fast...my top speed is usually 60-65 mph. Is this a problem due to high performance driving or every day driving? I don't even think that I would ever make it into 6th gear. My car now is a 5 speed and I think I've only ever shifted into 5th like 4 times. Any help would be appreciated. Plan on going to the dealer on Saturday to order the car.
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My six speed's fine, and I got an early '02 model.
It's not the best tranny out there; it's simply a little boxy.
As far as 6th, there's nothing wrong with only using the first 5, if you don't go fast enough to put it in 6th. If you value fun in your drive, you should still stick with the manny.
It's not the best tranny out there; it's simply a little boxy.
As far as 6th, there's nothing wrong with only using the first 5, if you don't go fast enough to put it in 6th. If you value fun in your drive, you should still stick with the manny.
#5
Agree with Harris
That was the main reason I got the Touch Shift, too. Not driving hard and often enuf to merrit a 6er. Of coure You have to ante up a few more bucks, too
From what i read i dont think the 6er is that much of a concern anyway
From what i read i dont think the 6er is that much of a concern anyway
#6
I have one of the nasty 6sp trans, and all I can suggest is that you drive the car quite a bit before accepting it to make sure you are happy with the shift quality. Some are good, some are bad, and most are just mediocre.
#7
I dont think there is anything wrong with my 6speed. You just have to learn how to adjust to it, and then you can make smooth shifting easily. Dont worry and go get the 6speed
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#10
Originally posted by chrissy
If something does happen with it, the dealer is the one that has to pay to fix it right? Is it under the warranty?
If something does happen with it, the dealer is the one that has to pay to fix it right? Is it under the warranty?
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2002 C240 6-spd (ret)
Re: Bordeaux Red scared about 6 speed
Originally posted by chrissy
I want to buy the C230K in a 6 speed but after looking at some of the posts from people about all of the problems with them, I'm getting quite scared. I am the type of person that does not drive fast...my top speed is usually 60-65 mph. Is this a problem due to high performance driving or every day driving? I don't even think that I would ever make it into 6th gear. My car now is a 5 speed and I think I've only ever shifted into 5th like 4 times. Any help would be appreciated. Plan on going to the dealer on Saturday to order the car.
I want to buy the C230K in a 6 speed but after looking at some of the posts from people about all of the problems with them, I'm getting quite scared. I am the type of person that does not drive fast...my top speed is usually 60-65 mph. Is this a problem due to high performance driving or every day driving? I don't even think that I would ever make it into 6th gear. My car now is a 5 speed and I think I've only ever shifted into 5th like 4 times. Any help would be appreciated. Plan on going to the dealer on Saturday to order the car.
PS. Whatever you do, don't pay attention to Buellwinkle's posts about all his problems
Last edited by MarkL; 02-06-2003 at 05:04 PM.
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Re: Re: Bordeaux Red scared about 6 speed
Originally posted by MarkL
Like someone else said, it doesn't matter how many of the gears you use, just that you are doing it yourself . BTW, I shift into 6th around 55 to 60 depending... I also had a 5-speed before and was wondering about using 6th gear. After you get used to it, it's no big deal. The main decision for you is just whether you want the manual at all. I have 15K miles on my C240 6-spd and haven't had a minute of trouble with the trans or anything else.
PS. Whatever you do, don't pay attention to Buellwinkle's posts about all his problems
Like someone else said, it doesn't matter how many of the gears you use, just that you are doing it yourself . BTW, I shift into 6th around 55 to 60 depending... I also had a 5-speed before and was wondering about using 6th gear. After you get used to it, it's no big deal. The main decision for you is just whether you want the manual at all. I have 15K miles on my C240 6-spd and haven't had a minute of trouble with the trans or anything else.
PS. Whatever you do, don't pay attention to Buellwinkle's posts about all his problems
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Re: Bordeaux Red scared about 6 speed
Originally posted by chrissy
I want to buy the C230K in a 6 speed but after looking at some of the posts from people about all of the problems with them, I'm getting quite scared. I am the type of person that does not drive fast...my top speed is usually 60-65 mph. Is this a problem due to high performance driving or every day driving? I don't even think that I would ever make it into 6th gear. My car now is a 5 speed and I think I've only ever shifted into 5th like 4 times. Any help would be appreciated. Plan on going to the dealer on Saturday to order the car.
I want to buy the C230K in a 6 speed but after looking at some of the posts from people about all of the problems with them, I'm getting quite scared. I am the type of person that does not drive fast...my top speed is usually 60-65 mph. Is this a problem due to high performance driving or every day driving? I don't even think that I would ever make it into 6th gear. My car now is a 5 speed and I think I've only ever shifted into 5th like 4 times. Any help would be appreciated. Plan on going to the dealer on Saturday to order the car.
I have had mine 4 months and actually like the 6-speed. It is notchy between 1-2, but after a few 1000 miles it gets a lot better (or maybe you get used to it....). Take a test drive and decide for yourself.
#14
I've driven two six-speeds and both were fine.
Mine has the C7-package with the shorter-throw shifter, I can only recall one complaint of a C7-car having a problem. Also, most of the bad trannys I've seen have been on '02s. I can't think of anyone off the top of my head who's had a problem with an '03, so you might be OK.
Cheers, BT
Mine has the C7-package with the shorter-throw shifter, I can only recall one complaint of a C7-car having a problem. Also, most of the bad trannys I've seen have been on '02s. I can't think of anyone off the top of my head who's had a problem with an '03, so you might be OK.
Cheers, BT
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Re: Re: Bordeaux Red scared about 6 speed
Originally posted by MarkL
Like someone else said, it doesn't matter how many of the gears you use, just that you are doing it yourself
Like someone else said, it doesn't matter how many of the gears you use, just that you are doing it yourself
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2003 C230K Sport Coupe, 1986 190E 2.3
I was skeptical about the 6 speed. But of the 2 2003's I drove they were both fine. Get the C7 since the short throw is much nicer. My wife learned on our car and has been shifting better then me in some cases. I like the tranny, the first gear is tight and accurate and the second is a little less tight, but still not sloppy. I would recommend it. ANd yes of course everything is covered under warranty, except wear and tear stuff like brakes, clutch and tires.
On another note I got a 2000 C230K for a loaner today. You can tell the torque diference between the 2.3 and the 1.8 at the lower RPM's between my C230 SC and the C230K sedan. But mine seems faster all around. The engine revs faster in my little 1.8.
On another note I got a 2000 C230K for a loaner today. You can tell the torque diference between the 2.3 and the 1.8 at the lower RPM's between my C230 SC and the C230K sedan. But mine seems faster all around. The engine revs faster in my little 1.8.
#18
Go for the 6-Speed.
Mine has been fine (28k miles), although 1-2 could be better. I generally use 6th gear above 50MPH. I have a 45 mile commute and cruise around 80MPH. I wish there was a 7th gear for even better fuel mileage.
Mine has been fine (28k miles), although 1-2 could be better. I generally use 6th gear above 50MPH. I have a 45 mile commute and cruise around 80MPH. I wish there was a 7th gear for even better fuel mileage.
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c230k, black, auto, c2 (let the sunshine in), Bose, leather, and CD
Chrissy,
You like driving a stick, so if you love the car, just get the six speed. If you don't just love the car, find one you do.
I went from an stick to an auto with this purchase becuase I just hated drving the hills of San Francisco with a stick, but I miss driving a standard.
Unlike many people on this board, I don't think MB makes a very good stick shift, but I do think it's good enough to get away with.
The touchshift on the auto is a joke, you don't have the sense of control or drving fun you have with a stick.
Get what you'rew going to enjoy driving, and if your worried about problems this car does come with a 50k warrenty.
Good luck!
Beth
You like driving a stick, so if you love the car, just get the six speed. If you don't just love the car, find one you do.
I went from an stick to an auto with this purchase becuase I just hated drving the hills of San Francisco with a stick, but I miss driving a standard.
Unlike many people on this board, I don't think MB makes a very good stick shift, but I do think it's good enough to get away with.
The touchshift on the auto is a joke, you don't have the sense of control or drving fun you have with a stick.
Get what you'rew going to enjoy driving, and if your worried about problems this car does come with a 50k warrenty.
Good luck!
Beth
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I have a six speed with no problems and am really enjoying it.
But it is definitely more work.
And because of the way the emergency brake works (not a hand-brake but a pedal on the side) starting on a hill in manual is pretty awkward.
If you do a lot of hilly city driving, go with the automatic.
If you don't mind doing a little bit of extra work to get that sporty feel, get the manual.
--S
But it is definitely more work.
And because of the way the emergency brake works (not a hand-brake but a pedal on the side) starting on a hill in manual is pretty awkward.
If you do a lot of hilly city driving, go with the automatic.
If you don't mind doing a little bit of extra work to get that sporty feel, get the manual.
--S
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C230K Coupe/Orion/C4/C5/CD/AMG Spoiler/V60/TeleAid, 2 MGB's
Chrissy....hi again from NJ
If you like the control of shifting a car yourself, the 6 speed is the way to go. Personally, I don't like auto-slush-box transmissions.
More than a few owners in this forum DO drive their coupes hard, and I would almost bet that most of the ones with 'all these reported problems' are these very same drivers.
My car was a little notchy for about the first 2500 miles. But after that, it's silky smooth. I've got 17,5xx on it now, and it's far better than new.
*Don't believe ALL the hype....some of it even comes from disgruntled BMW posers wishing they had bought the Benz instead.*
If you like the control of shifting a car yourself, the 6 speed is the way to go. Personally, I don't like auto-slush-box transmissions.
More than a few owners in this forum DO drive their coupes hard, and I would almost bet that most of the ones with 'all these reported problems' are these very same drivers.
My car was a little notchy for about the first 2500 miles. But after that, it's silky smooth. I've got 17,5xx on it now, and it's far better than new.
*Don't believe ALL the hype....some of it even comes from disgruntled BMW posers wishing they had bought the Benz instead.*
#24
Originally posted by z3r0
Exactly what is the problem with the 6-spd on the cars with the faulty tranny? I drove a manual C230k and it was great, the clutch is as light as a feather!
Exactly what is the problem with the 6-spd on the cars with the faulty tranny? I drove a manual C230k and it was great, the clutch is as light as a feather!
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2002 C230 Coupe(M111)
Originally posted by chrissy
I'm not particularly fond of automatic cars though, I like to shift. That's why I'm so concerned.
I'm not particularly fond of automatic cars though, I like to shift. That's why I'm so concerned.
If you do have problems...well, that's what the warranty is for. Get the car you want.