W203E35

Hey Guys,

I need your help. 30 minutes ago I came back from lunch. Right when I pulled in the parking structure I got a message "Check Oil Level at Next Gas Station". I waited 30 minutes and just now went and checked the oil level. It is 1/3 of the indicator. (LOW ABCDEFGHIJK MAX) it is between B and C. I did not notice any oil leaks. Does this mean my car is burning oil?
What would be the problem?

Thanks,

P.S. I'm going to be here for 2 more hours should I try checking again? If so where should the oil indicator be? (what letter)

Time - 4:39 Pacific Time

LILBENZ230

This is ONLY if your car has electronic measurement capability. If you have a dipstick, this does not apply to you.

After it has been sitting for a while, put it in dyno mode and get the exact amount. I wouldn't jump to any conclusions. It's normal for all engines to use a little bit of oil. How long has it been since it was changed?

On my 05, it will simply say "Oil Level OK" or "Add 1qt for max level"

For reference.. the oil capacity for my car is 5.8 quarts, or 5.5L. When I put my car in dyno mode after sitting 12+ hours it will say I have 5.1L (this is after 10000 miles since last change). If I get the car to check the oil, even though .4 is missing, it still says "Oil Level OK" - so it has some buffer zone. Your car's oil capacity is 7.9 quarts, or 7.5L. If it is 7.0 or above in dyno screen you are probably okay. If it is below this you can leave it in dyno mode and add oil slowly. I wouldn't add it to the point that it reads 7.5, though - as oil could still be in the filter and you'll end up with a "overfill" message.

Also, my car requests oil. If it is low it asks for some. It has never prompted me to simply "check" so I'm not sure if that's a new feature. It could just be a reminder rather than an indicator that anything is going on.

W203E35

Thanks for the reply. I still have 5 thousand till it's time to change it. I'm not 100 percent sure but I don't think Dyno tells me the oil level. All I get is the voltage, the VIN, dyno selection and these number sort of like Version numbers..

Do I need to select the Dyno then I will get additional Menu?

Thanks again

LILBENZ230

Oh crap, did you check it with a dipstick? The 07s have the electronic measurement feature removed.. I thought that was just the C230s.

W203E35

it's an 06 and it's exactly like the 230 but has the 350 engine. So I guess since they had that removed on the 230s they probably had it removed on mine too

I read couple of threads about a member having the same issue but got the message "Add 1 qt" something like that and he got black dust in his exhaust. I checked I have that too.

Is loosing 1 qt a common problem?

I am going to take my car to the dealer because the left rear sits lower than the right. Is this message logged in? If the message goes away will the dealer be able to see this message?

Thanks

LILBENZ230

If you checked it with a dipstick, the feature is not on your car.

But oil usage is normal for all engines. By what you said, I would guess that it's just slightly low and you need to add some. I don't have a lot of experience with 06-07s, so I can't say for sure but maybe since the electronic thing was removed it has a built in reminder to check it now and then? The owner's manual could confirm or debunk this. The cars with electronic measurement are capable of telling us how much to add. Your car wouldn't be.

1qt in 8000 miles is most likely well within spec. There's also a chance not enough was put in at last change and the usage is less than 1qt.

I wouldn't stress over this at all. Top it off and carry on.

W203E35

Thanks Man, I really appreciate you help.

Learning something new everyday

LILBENZ230

That's what MBworld.org is for, right?

splinter

MB’s contention is that consumption in excess of .8 liter per 1000 kilometers is cause for concern – and only then justification for warrantable repairs.

New P and M German cars will frequently burn nearly that much (because of their relatively loose fitting forged pistons) even when broken-in properly. Our cast (hypereutectic) pieces can easily surpass 200,000 miles without undue consumption. External leakage or insufficient PCV separation is far more likely to cause excessive oil consumption. My ~19psi M112 has yet to consume even a quart between its scheduled Mobil 1 0W-40 change intervals. It’s subjected to good times pretty regularly, too.

Keep an eye on it, but chances are mighty slim yours is consuming more that its fair share. The M272 longblock has thus far proven to be darn near sturdy as an anvil.

jk062602kj- my son says “thanks” for the Wi-Fi intel you’ve shared.

Glyn M Ruck

Just for clarification. Your car has the oil level contactor fitted so it can tell you it has low oil level but this can't be used to check level & you have a dipstick as well????? I thought it was one or the other?

LILBENZ230

That's what I'm trying to figure out, too, Glyn. His car just said "Check oil level at next gas station". But does that mean it has some built in reminder to check the oil, or does that mean the car sensed it was low? That is the question.

My guess was that the car simply was reminding him to check it and has no electronic ability to measure the oil. He checked it with a dipstick.

W203E35

Thanks for the info.

Sure no problem. If you have any questions feel free to message/email me.

For any books or software (of course these are freeware )

W203E35

Ya, it's got a dipstick. Maybe the C350 has one?






Also I went to Dyno mode to see if it will say anything I got his menu but the part where it's (----------) it said M272 and below it, it said E35 (is the software same as the E350?) is that what this means?




Here is the Miles till Service B



I don't know what it might be. The message didn't come up after I left work. I don't see any oil spots anywhere.



I hope it was a friendly reminder (didn't seem too friendly to me )

W203E35

Here we go. I read the owners manual and this is what I got. (sorry for the stupid post before lool I've checked before but wanted to know exact spot )

But no where in the manual does it state anything about the weird message I got "Check Engine Oil at Next Gas Station". But I know I am not crazy I did a search before asking so I don't get "STFFed"
https://mbworld.org/forums/diesel-fo...ml#post3559749

Here is what the Manual states.

When checking the oil level.

• the vehicle must be parked on level ground.

• with the engine at operating temperature, the vehicle must have been stationary for at least 5 minutes with the engine turned off.

• with the engine not at operating temperature yet, the vehicle must have been stationary for at least 30 minutes with the engine turned off.

The oil level is correct when it is between the lower (min) mark and the upper (max) mark.

Min---------Max

The filling quantity between the upper and lower marks on the oil dipstick is approximately 2.1 US qt (2.0 l)

LILBENZ230

Open hood.
Remove dipstick.
Verify level is normal (middle or close to max)
Replace dipstick.
Close hood.



Just check it when the car has been sitting a little while. Won't hurt to check it cold. It goes without saying that it needs to be level. And your Dyno Mode screen confirms your car has no electronic measuring device.

W203E35

What do you guys think losing a quart of oil is it a big problem or not?

Also I want to add something - I have been driving my car hard lately. For 3 days straight I have been pushing the car to the limit.

I have raced 9 cars (different times) total in a month time span. (sorry the cat is out of the bag) is this the reason why oil has been missing (oil burning)? Is this ok?

3 of them 0-80
2 of them 0-130 (same time)
2 of them 60 - 130 (this one was bad I downshifted and I was at 5K RPM when I took off) (5K RPM 1sec 2 sec 3sec 4sec then boom I took off)
1 0-60
1 30-130

You guys are probably thinking "man who is this a$$ hole abusing his car and coming to us for help"

LILBENZ230

As Splinter posted, MB thinks that .8L over 1000km is acceptable. That's a bit over 3/4ths of a quart in 621 miles. No more than you're using, they're not going to do anything about it as it is well within spec. I wouldn't say you have a big problem, no - aside from being a punk.

P.S. - Pretend you do not see the 135i under my name. I swear, I behave.

W203E35

I can only imagine how much fun you have with the 135i. Once I was stopped at a red light and this 4 door 335 pulled up. I didn't know it was a 335 usually most people have the 328. We had a little go at it this car had me by 4 - 5 cars. I was like "wtf why isn't my car going " Then I saw the 335 and was like I would have saved myself the humiliation if I knew it was a 335. I think if he kept going he would have had more cars.

Is your 135i stock? I heard those cars (335) dyno around 280 -285 which I think the car is under rated.

mleskovar

The harder you stress a motor the more oil it will burn. How you drive has bearing on how much oil you will burn. Your oil usage doesn't seem excessive for your driving style......which I'm guessing is WOT most of the time.

Glyn M Ruck

For years the Benz condemning limit was - " Oil consumption shall not exceed 1% of fuel consumption"

My car used a little oil when it was in it's first 2000Km of use. Also blew a little oil smoke on cold start - one puff. Since 5000Km - now 52,000Km it uses zero oil. I rev it openly to about 5000RPM - I never really hammer it, but drive in spirited fashion.

W203E35

Yup, I usually take it nice and easy. But sometimes when people talk and insult Mercedes you have to take action.

But I blame myself for all this because I should have ignored all these comments.

I have couple of car under my belt and I think i'm going to take it easy for a while.

0-80 MPH
330Ci (no chance)
G35 Coupe (had him half a car)
G35 Sedan (306 HP) (Screeched while I gripped and had him by 4 cars)

0-130 MPH
ML500 (I thought the ML would catch me at the end but not a chance)
IS300 (no chance)

60-130 MPH
328 (sedan - not bad had him about maybe 6 cars)
IS250 (all I have to say is not worth the money :-) )

0-60 MPH
IS300 (the little IS that kept trying)

30-130
Honda Accord Coupe (09) (this honda had ***** 0 it hanged with me pretty good till about 90 MPH then I slowly started pulling away) I think the owner eased of the gas but I have respect for the accord coupe not bad)

The w203 C350 is a sleeper for sure (also it's a poor mans C55 ) most of the time they think it's a 230 but are in for a surprise.

Anyway I haven't had any oil problems today I think I might have burned some oil. Because I did see and cleaned off oil residue in the exhaust.

Thanks for all your help guys I really appreciate it.

TruTaing

Random note involving low oil notifications:

It happens a lot more when you're over the service interval ( ie you're engine's oil has degraded ). I was way over on my last service A (the mega oil change, ha), and my car complained for oil while driving, but when I parked and had the car measure the oil, it would be fine. And yes, I probably drive my car harder than I should and I might have to add half a quart of oil towards the end of my interval while I also know that my recirculating valve covers are leaking!

I don't know if this applies to the m111/m271...

LILBENZ230

Yes it's stock. Sport Premium 6MT.

The 3.5L M272 is a nice engine.. especially for those expecting a C230. We C230s have AMG kits and huge brakes that make for a very loud bark. Unfortunately we have all the bite of your average waffle house waitress.

You mean you beat that Honda? I thought once mad vtakkkkk "kicked in yo" that you'd be smoked for sure. I guess it's not all it is cracked up to be afterall.

W203E35

The thing that tripps me out is I don't know for sure if the dealer changed the oil. I bought the car in feb and it had 20,xxx miles and now it has 26,xxx miles. And it's says Service B in 6,300 miles. But when I purchased the car all they did was wash it. It didn't seem like they changed the oil right then and there. The car was sitting on the lot since Dec and I got it in Feb. When I bought the car it was resetted to 13,000 miles. Which was weird because december through feb no one test drove it?

But eighter way I will change the oil soon. I bought the oil extractor from ebay (80 bucks for 8 quarts capacity) and I bought 7 quarts mobile 0-40 (thats all they had so I need to go back for 2 more quarts) then i'll get the fleece filter.

I don't trust the dealer I got my car from.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LILBENZ230

Yes it's stock. Sport Premium 6MT.

You know what car I saw once and you could have heard that Vtec a mile away.

Integra TypeR, Now that sounded like Beast performed well too.

I remember back in the day people use to buy the CRX and put a GSR engine and they use to (sorry for the ugly word) "Rape" mustangs.

GO Cart on steroids.

But the integra TypeR
VrrrrrrrrrAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
The redline is amazing on those things

Are these new Hondas true Vtec?

I mean during my high school years people had civics with Vtech but that was nothing compared to the TypeR.

I dont know much but maybe you can give me info why the typeR engine sounded better?

s it because it was crazier Vtech?

Thanks

LILBENZ230

If you have seven quarts, you only need 1 more.

VTEC has evolved. The 98-02 Accord V6s had a version of VTEC tuned for efficiency... what a joke. Those were so slow.

The high-rpm kick-in-the-pants is mostly missing from today's Hondas. They use i-VTEC that is continuously variable so there's no sudden activation. They are still true VTEC engines. Honda is a master of four-cylinders. Torqueless wonders, for sure.

The K20 engine in the current Civic Si sounds a lot like the older TypeR engine. But again, that engine had the old VTEC and it is just a different breed than today's i-VTEC.