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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 07:11 AM
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Battery/Alternator problem

Every once in a while when I turn the car on in the morning, it does something strange. After around 10 seconds, the radio turns off, the SRS signal turns on, for about 5 seconds, and then everything goes back to normal. This only happens when I first turn on the car in the morning.

Yesterday morning when I turned on the car, I was greated with this message



I took it to the mechanic, he checked the battery and the alternator, and they seem to run fine.
Any ideas what might be causing this?
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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by wessamzeidan
Every once in a while when I turn the car on in the morning, it does something strange. After around 10 seconds, the radio turns off, the SRS signal turns on, for about 5 seconds, and then everything goes back to normal. This only happens when I first turn on the car in the morning.

Yesterday morning when I turned on the car, I was greated with this message



I took it to the mechanic, he checked the battery and the alternator, and they seem to run fine.
Any ideas what might be causing this?
Wessam - Did they put the system under load when they checked it? They must do a load test. If they did then check all connections & fuses for corrosion. Check earth & earth straps. From memory your car has very low mileage for it's age - Yes? I'm suspicious that you have a sulphated battery if it's never been changed. Is the car throwing any codes?
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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 10:32 AM
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Do these problems occur after you have turned on the car and the car is running, or do these appear if the car does not start?
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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 02:26 PM
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They didn't put it under load, they just started the car and checked the voltage on the battery and the alternator.
The car has almost 100,000 miles on it.
The mechanic told me that some of the devices in the car are receiving high voltage signal, but he doesn't know what might be causing this.
Not sure if the battery has been changed before.

The car starts every time, I never had the case were the car doesn't start. It just does the issue I described above when I first start the car.
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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 02:43 PM
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I might be wrong, but isn't running the car with accessories like the radio or AC on loading the electrical system? Can someone clarify what "load" means?
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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 05:46 PM
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That gives an indication but proper battery testers have a defined built in load that measures the rate at which you knock the surface charge of the battery & bring it down to base voltage. An unloaded battery can look fine but collapse as soon as it has to do some work - like start the car.

Wessam - sorry I got your car mixed with another European member. How old is the battery?
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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 06:21 PM
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I have the same car and year man, and if your problem is anything like mine it is only going to get worse...Mine was my alternator I ignored this problem for about a month until one day i was driving home and my car deng near completely shut off on me.

All the lights radio and headlights went really really low and I could tell that the car obviously was not getting any power. I tried replacing my battery and the same thing happened the next day then I replaced the alternator and everything was smooth sailing from there.

However krisv420 had the same error you are getting and he said he just replaced his battery and everything worked fine....if the battery or alternator hasn't been replaced since 2003 it might be about that time my man...hope this helps.

(Keep in mind that this is not a definite answer but this was my situation)
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 03:58 AM
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I really don't know when the battery was changed, I bought it used a year ago, and I didn't change the battery yet.

Whats confusing me is that this only happens in the morning, during the day the car starts normally, even if the car was parked for long hours.

Most probably its time to change the battery.
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 04:34 AM
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the car requires more amps to crank in the cold weather then in warm weather. Try replacing the battery and see if it makes a difference. You can buy one at walmart for $100.
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by wessamzeidan
I really don't know when the battery was changed, I bought it used a year ago, and I didn't change the battery yet.

Whats confusing me is that this only happens in the morning, during the day the car starts normally, even if the car was parked for long hours.

Most probably its time to change the battery.
That first cold start of the day is always the worst from a battery perspective.

Mike - Wessam is in Europe so no Walmart around the corner.
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Glyn M Ruck
That first cold start of the day is always the worst from a battery perspective.

Mike - Wessam is in Europe so no Walmart around the corner.
oh ic..i'm sure there's a walmart equivalant some where.
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 09:17 AM
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turn the car on, let it warm up a little bit,disconnect the battery , if car shuts off , your alternator is bad , if car runs ... Check battery voltage to see if it needs replacement
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 09:22 AM
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Are you running an amplifier or anything like it? When the alternator starts feeding from the battery with the car running , it means your alternator is going bad ... I just had my dad's minivan alternator replaced .. It was completly shut , reading the symptoms your car is giving you , (things turning off) etc, my guess is your alternator is giving up on you
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 09:24 AM
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Because a bad battery wouldn't cause things to turn off (with the car on of course)!
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 09:47 AM
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Don't disconnect while running. This can blow the rear SAM - Not recommended.
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 09:50 AM
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sorry , I never tried it on a Benz but worked for me, a cheap way to know if your alternator is actually doing his job.
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 10:57 AM
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I'm actually in the middle east

I just came from the mechanic, he told me that the regulator is malfunctioning, so he replaced it. Not sure if that's really the problem, I can't tell untill I try it out tomorrow morning.
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 12:16 PM
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Sorry Wessam - I'm confused - keep confusing you with another guy that PMed me - I Knew you were not in the US!!. It could be regulator, alternator or battery. Let's hold thumbs
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 12:51 PM
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No problem Glyn

I'll have to wait untill tomorrow morning to know if it fixed the issue. Will keep you updated.
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WTF! Someone needs to stop furthering the idea that it is appropriate to disconnect the battery while the car is running. Do not do this. Ever.

Let us know how the car behaves in the AM.
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 05:58 PM
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If the vehicle has the factory installed audio system - It will cut out to protect the battery. Only aftermarket installation connected direct to the battery will run it flat. Or at least this is the theory.
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Originally Posted by Glyn M Ruck
If the vehicle has the factory installed audio system - It will cut out to protect the battery. Only aftermarket installation connected direct to the battery will run it flat. Or at least this is the theory.
My car will turn off things to protect the battery. Stereo & interior lights.
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My car also will turn off the headlights to protect the battery... actually, with my completely stock car, I don't think it is possible to run the battery down.
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Will it turn off the headlights if you switch them to the ON position? Mine turns them off in Auto, but in ON it tells me to switch them off. A friend of a friend with an 01 C320 ran his battery out by leaving his in the ON position.
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I've never tried it with my w203, but I forgot and left them on once or twice in my CLK ('99), which didn't have the auto feature, and I got back to my car and found them off. I thought "****!" when I saw that the switch was an but they were off. But my car started, then the lights turned on, and everything was fine.

EDIT: I just remembered, I also did something similar with the SL ('07). I drove the car, and turned on the fog lights. I'm so used to the lights being set on "Auto" that I forgot to switch them off. When I got up the next morning, none of the electronics were working (automatic windows that open a crack when you open the doors, interior lights, MFD). I tried the push button start, and nothing, but as soon as I put the key in the ignition, everything lit up and the car started.

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