M272 CAI: Graphic images, viewer beware :P
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well if any of you guys read my other thread, which i got flamed for...lol. there is a giant space under the passenger side headlight where you could route that fat 4 inch pipe down into. its filled with cold air. try it. after you drive your car, pop the hood, remove the passenger side intake pipe and stick your hand through the fat opening down under the headlight. hella space for any cone filter.
someone also said that it would get dirty... isn't that the purpose of a filter? even if you look at the underside of the front bumper, it's pretty much covered all the way with panels. so i doubt it'll get any dirtier than our current filters.
someone also said that it would get dirty... isn't that the purpose of a filter? even if you look at the underside of the front bumper, it's pretty much covered all the way with panels. so i doubt it'll get any dirtier than our current filters.
Anyways, you can probably integrate a scoop in that area to go under the car and scoop the air from inder the bumper. Might have to clean your filter more often but thats the price... Also with 320 i dont think that mod is possible
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Don't waste your time & money on mickey mouse dyno runs. Read this & ignore dumb comments by Giovanni on the second thread
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...****+on+a+bull
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...+Pulley+system
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...****+on+a+bull
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...+Pulley+system
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What did you use to keep the battery in place? Additionally, whats the weight difference between the red top and the stock battery? (if i have to replace my battery, I might as well do it w/ a lighter one in the future) I think I had MB roadside replace mine last time and it cost a fortune and a half :x
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ECU on top of the engine. Thats different from the m112. I wonder why they moved it. The ecu is nice and snug on m112s by the fuses / front sam on the m112s...
What did you use to keep the battery in place? Additionally, whats the weight difference between the red top and the stock battery? (if i have to replace my battery, I might as well do it w/ a lighter one in the future) I think I had MB roadside replace mine last time and it cost a fortune and a half :x
What did you use to keep the battery in place? Additionally, whats the weight difference between the red top and the stock battery? (if i have to replace my battery, I might as well do it w/ a lighter one in the future) I think I had MB roadside replace mine last time and it cost a fortune and a half :x
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yeah at the top.. at the same time theres still not too many air coming from there.. those fins serve as an escape for the heat coming from the engine compartment.. not going into the compartment.. well.. looks good man. by the way no ones attacking you here so take a chill pill.. lol.
actually if you look closely, battery bay is completely sealed off from engine bay , when the hood is closed ,with the weather stripping
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ECU on top of the engine. Thats different from the m112. I wonder why they moved it. The ecu is nice and snug on m112s by the fuses / front sam on the m112s...
What did you use to keep the battery in place? Additionally, whats the weight difference between the red top and the stock battery? (if i have to replace my battery, I might as well do it w/ a lighter one in the future) I think I had MB roadside replace mine last time and it cost a fortune and a half :x
What did you use to keep the battery in place? Additionally, whats the weight difference between the red top and the stock battery? (if i have to replace my battery, I might as well do it w/ a lighter one in the future) I think I had MB roadside replace mine last time and it cost a fortune and a half :x
who knows. the M272 and 273 has both moved the ecu on top of the engine.
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W206 PHEV AMG
Don't waste your time & money on mickey mouse dyno runs. Read this & ignore dumb comments by Giovanni on the second thread
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...****+on+a+bull
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...+Pulley+system
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...****+on+a+bull
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...+Pulley+system
I wouldn't bother with AMS pulley or any pulley that is the same size except weight less. It will not have any real performance gain that's worth the money in return. It's a stupid *** gimmick by a kid name Ohmehomey from benzworld that knows little to **** and just wanted to mod his 210 e55 and think it works.
under-drive pulley from reputable companies, YES. AMS pulley, NO.
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Please read the threads I originally attached above. I'm not repeating myself. Both timfd - an FI Cosworth Race Engineer & I have commented at length in this regard. We have both spent large proportions of our working life on multi - multi million dollar dyno's in controlled operating environments that control everything from Atmospheric pressure to IAT & humidity. Believe what you wish - don't mislead others!
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Ok, lets put it this way, i stepped up to the plate and PROVED a gain on the dyno, what do you have to show for? talk is cheap, your mutli million dollar dyno story, what has that got to do with anything. Ask anybody in the USA , what dynos are shops using. I don't get what are you trying to chase after here??? Its only an engine, like in any other car. I took the stock air box apart, seen nothing positive about , created a new intake, proved that its better, and i am happy. I would suggest to leave your lame comments for yourself, cause i dont see no other rocket scientist on here, cheap talking about some projects from out of space. Unless you got something to show for, please , dont comment back about humidity dyno, or whatever , thank you, it just raises my blood pressure and makes me want to outburst stupid slurs and words that are not appropriate , and right now even if you are a rocket scientist , with your ignorant comments you qualify in my book as a douschebag that ( besides that fact that you provided me with a few pictures of the fuel filter ) is simply ignorant! ...geeezzzz, all this about a f-in air filter
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Incidentally, I’ve beat up on more than a few of your M3 and Cooper S brethren during off-highway encounters. They’re easy pickings for some of us. If you’ve something positive or instructional with which to contribute, chances are fair your tenure here will not soon cease. Wit and a twinge of humility may serve to help your cause.
Until then, get over yourself and go with the flow. :y
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WTF? So you’ve, for whatever reason(s), chosen a W203. Seems unfortunate that you had to relinquished your former rides and somehow felt compelled to join this forum. Nobody here is going to kiss your *** for having unleashed a few additional horsepower from your ‘unique’ CAI.
Incidentally, I’ve beat up on more than a few of your M3 and Cooper S brethren during off-highway encounters. They’re easy pickings for some of us. If you’ve something positive or instructional with which to contribute, chances are fair your tenure here will not soon cease. Wit and a twinge of humility may serve to help your cause.
Until then, get over yourself and go with the flow.
Incidentally, I’ve beat up on more than a few of your M3 and Cooper S brethren during off-highway encounters. They’re easy pickings for some of us. If you’ve something positive or instructional with which to contribute, chances are fair your tenure here will not soon cease. Wit and a twinge of humility may serve to help your cause.
Until then, get over yourself and go with the flow.
I wouldn't take what Glyn says for granted.. He is definitely what you would call knowledgeable.
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it amazes me how some people don't respect each other in the w203 forums. we all use to help each other and we all had respect for one another. Now the new members are coming in here and insulting long time or highly respected members such as Glyn and lilbenz230. Guess it shows you what happens when cars get cheaper so that anyone can buy them. i guess not everyone was raised with manners and to respect others. and if you wanted a fast car you should have bought an amg or if you wanted to mod your car get a Honda. if you want help from other members you need to be respectful and learn to search before you post.
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it amazes me how some people don't respect each other in the w203 forums. we all use to help each other and we all had respect for one another. Now the new members are coming in here and insulting long time or highly respected members such as Glyn and lilbenz230. Guess it shows you what happens when cars get cheaper so that anyone can buy them. i guess not every was raised with manners and to respect others. and if you wanted a fast car you should have bought an amg or if you wanted to mod your car get a Honda. if you want help from other members you need to be respectful and learn to search before you post.
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Dyno Dynamics accuracy ?
Show me where on this Dyno Dynamics spec page it call out either accuracy or repeatability:
http://www.dyno.com.au/dyno/controll...ow2WD450DSPage
Yes it mentions 'resolution' but interestingly no where does it mention absolute accuracy or repeatability. I wonder why ??
If it were so darn accurate / repeatable - why aren't they shouting it from the roof tops ?
I guess they hope users will confuse resolution with accuracy :-(
Thus as other have mentioned - dyno numbers are for bragging rights but don't actually prove anything.
Yes you can cherry pick numbers from various runs to kid yourself a certain modification gives x HP increase - but at the end of the day it's meaningless.
Much better to measure 1/4 mile times etc.
http://www.dyno.com.au/dyno/controll...ow2WD450DSPage
Yes it mentions 'resolution' but interestingly no where does it mention absolute accuracy or repeatability. I wonder why ??
If it were so darn accurate / repeatable - why aren't they shouting it from the roof tops ?
I guess they hope users will confuse resolution with accuracy :-(
Thus as other have mentioned - dyno numbers are for bragging rights but don't actually prove anything.
Yes you can cherry pick numbers from various runs to kid yourself a certain modification gives x HP increase - but at the end of the day it's meaningless.
Much better to measure 1/4 mile times etc.
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thinking about it...this intake you have might be "loud" but not sure if its efficient for engine breathing.
hmm, talking about intakes... these were the intake setups I had on my C320, I can tell you that the RENNTECH box (pretty much a enlarged stock box) is the best setup you can really have on our cars.
Renntech
C32 AMG with Renntech Filters
Custom Cones with Stock Box
hmm, talking about intakes... these were the intake setups I had on my C320, I can tell you that the RENNTECH box (pretty much a enlarged stock box) is the best setup you can really have on our cars.
Renntech
C32 AMG with Renntech Filters
Custom Cones with Stock Box
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Ok, lets put it this way, i stepped up to the plate and PROVED a gain on the dyno, what do you have to show for? talk is cheap, your mutli million dollar dyno story, what has that got to do with anything. Ask anybody in the USA , what dynos are shops using. I don't get what are you trying to chase after here??? Its only an engine, like in any other car. I took the stock air box apart, seen nothing positive about , created a new intake, proved that its better, and i am happy. I would suggest to leave your lame comments for yourself, cause i dont see no other rocket scientist on here, cheap talking about some projects from out of space. Unless you got something to show for, please , dont comment back about humidity dyno, or whatever , thank you, it just raises my blood pressure and makes me want to outburst stupid slurs and words that are not appropriate , and right now even if you are a rocket scientist , with your ignorant comments you qualify in my book as a douschebag that ( besides that fact that you provided me with a few pictures of the fuel filter ) is simply ignorant! ...geeezzzz, all this about a f-in air filter
You can put a T-Tail off an MD-88 on the back of your C230 if you wish, but don't expect to post here about how it improves the car in some way and for all of us to nod our heads in agreement. If you're happy with the car no one really cares what you do to it, but we're entitled to our opinions and if you don't want to hear them.. well it's quite simple. DON'T POST! If you're going to put stuff out there in the public realm, you're going to have to expect some feedback that won't be good. You don't make the rules. You don't post stupid ***** and then tell us what we can and cannot say in response.
This little outburst post I've quoted here reminds me of a pre-teen temper tantrum. You've been a troll since your first post comparing a 200hp 3400lb C230 to a 333hp M3 or a 2500lb Mini Cooper. You bought the wrong car. And if you think Glyn is an ignorant douchebag, you joined the wrong forum.
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I don't get it. I have heard of intakes and know about them but, isn't our original design better? How can it get any colder? Sucks air from the grill as opposed to sucking air by the battery box?
The only plus I see is that it is shorter. Other than that I feel our stock intake is fine and may even perform better.
One thing I learned is on the w203 intake and exhaust hardly do anything. What is the max power you gained 2hp? If you even gained anything.
Can anyone chime in? You guys really believe there will be any gains? I'm not trying to argue or anything I just want an honest answer.
Good job, you should get points for doing it, but if you gain more power than
The only plus I see is that it is shorter. Other than that I feel our stock intake is fine and may even perform better.
One thing I learned is on the w203 intake and exhaust hardly do anything. What is the max power you gained 2hp? If you even gained anything.
Can anyone chime in? You guys really believe there will be any gains? I'm not trying to argue or anything I just want an honest answer.
Good job, you should get points for doing it, but if you gain more power than
Doesn't our stock intake "accept" air more easily since it is pushed in?
Please someone anyone?
I personally feel anywhere from -5hp to +2hp if that
