SeaCoupe

Hmm, on a downhill slope?

If you got it, that would be a great time for the M111.

zerocover

No evo will do an 11 sec 1/4, a 11 second 1/4 mile is lighting fast. A stock evo x will do the 1/4 in 13.8. You need to go to a real 1/4 mile track to get your time not use something you plug into your cig lighter.

Furthermore there is no way a c230 can do the 1/4 in 15 seconds, I say maybe 17 seconds, and that's nothing to laugh at, I've also read articles that put it in the low 16 second range which is quick.
I've driven a TC and it does the 1/4 in 16.5-17 seconds. Its a Camry engine so lots of low end but nothing else. I used to drive a mazda protege that ran the 1/4 in 21 seconds, and it could blow away civics. The term slow is subjective.

LILBENZ230

To say that "no C230" can do it is rubbish. 15s are possible with the C230K.

omg its nate

My m272 is not a 17 sec car...

I have not driven the automatics but the six speed is fun no matter what the 1/4 mile time is.

I win.

Capt Nemo o2

Ummm... I got 15.660 @ 88.3mph with a 2.274 0-60ft time with my C230K 6MT! This was done at Orlando Speedworld, so this data comes from their timing system, not something that was plugged into my cigarette lighter.


Now I'm no pro drag racer (this was my 6th pass ever on a drag strip), so I would have to venture to say that my best run is pretty indicative of the "average decent driver". The C230 V6 is slower, but there's no way its in the 17's (MB would not "update" the car that much!). I would think that a 6MT V6 C230 with an "average decent driver" would be in the mid 16s area.

Fastest stock tC on dragtimes is 15.878 @ 87.210.

-edit: I tried to see if I still have the time slip, but I cant find it! This was done around this time of year in 2007 and I have since moved 4 times since then! It must have gotten lost!

LinDenKid

I'm J/K i never had a chance , i am getting one this summer. my clutch is already worn out so what the hell ,lets just finish him off.lol

Milkm4n

i have a 2.5 manual and a buddy of mine has a 05 tc i think it might be 06
my car is stock his has intake(cold air) headers and exhaust his car is a great match when we race it comes down to driver error he wins some i win some i usually win from 0-60 he usually wins from 40 mph roll

OneOfaKindTrini

Please stop talking because you know nothing. My car had Precision 880cc injectors, Forge BOV, Hallman MBC, Upper and lower intercooler pipes, mini batt, Turboback w/ cat delete, B&m short shifter, ARC induction box and a tune w/ the Boost set to spike at 28psi and taper down to 19-21psi around 7000k rpm and I ran mid 11's.

Heres a random video of a evo running 11's with bolt on's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJlCk2sZ4iM

The car in that video is a 03 w/ the smaller VIII turbo, I had a IX with the 10.5 hotside turbo. Btw my car was tuned with Speed Density and alcohol. Making right around 400AWHP

OneOfaKindTrini

Please get your facts straight before you come start talking s**t on a forum. Go to english town in NJ(raceway park) and see how them Bolt On evo's movee

LILBENZ230

He was talking stock - really, I could care less what modded cars run. If "if's and but's" were candy and nuts it would be Christmas all year. With $$ you can make any car faster. A stock EVO is a high 13s car, which is very good.

Glyn M Ruck

+1 - Top Gear's old Jag XJS blew off Ferrari, Porsche 911 Turbo, NSX the whole plot with NOS. Without it came a distant LAST!

Any car can be made to perform in a straight line for a short period of time. Even a POS Smart until it suffers electrical failure when all 3 conrods sever the wiring harness. - who cares.

How about we modify a Tata Nano

Capt Nemo o2

LOL! You know, for the price of some of these top end pro street cars, you can put a 300 hp shot of nitrous in one and throw away the car after every run!

XsuperbeeX

take out the back seat and put a v8 on it...

omg its nate

Fast and gay

AdidasC230

drag and quarter mile times are retarded, if we measured cars on how good they where by that, then most cars are crap...

Capt Nemo o2

No, instead we judge by 0-60 times... Which is even more retarded! 1/4 mile times are much more indicative of a cars acceleration than 0-60. This is because no car undergoes uniform acceleration. It's like comparing peak horsepower, it gives you an idea, and in general for can be used to compare two vastly different cars. But when the cars HP are close to each other, its the power/torque curves that matter.

AdidasC230

yeah power/tq and weight, a Ford Expedition and a Mustang Gt share a 4.6 but one is wayyyyyyy faster then the other.... so many more factors then speed make up a good car, look at a mini cooper, or a elise, not power houses but extremely capable cars for what they are.

splinter

Yep, 40 to 130 is far more indicative of performance during most casual (off-highway) encounters.
Getting 'round corners approaching the limit is even more telling..

mtnman82

^^ - that's what I'm talking about...

IMHO, the m271 is the best compromise between power and economy (we were shopping for an around-town 'economy' car when we bought this). On the rare stop-light occasions I've had in this car, win or lose it's performed admirably. It's not like the 'vettes or 'stangs pull up to one of these looking to play (but for some reason those STI's like to think I'm game and there's not a chance). Again, just my opinion, but I think it's got plenty of power for having plenty of fun, especially in day-to-day driving. Handling is very good (really good after the suspension/brake upgrade) and I don't think I'd have any problems putting a grin on my face at a track - other than probably wishing it had a MT.

Burn outs/smoking tires - I've had no problems doing this in dyno mode. Actually had some people coming out of their houses with grins on faces last time I did that. I was on the way down to get a new set of tires, so I figured ...

LILBENZ230

The engine is rough and loud when cold, but it's not offensive in noise once its warmed up. It lacks the refinement of a Honda four-cylinder, but it has a lot more torque than the typical Honda four-cylinder so I'm willing to take that as a trade-off. I like the 722.6 better than the 722.9 in the V6 C230 (personal preference) but I find any automatic frustrating at times and prefer a manual. The fact that it has superior off-the-line performance to the V6 C230 while also getting better fuel economy is just icing on the cake.

splinter

Forgotten about your Bilstein damper and H&R spring/anti-roll bar upgrades…
damned if those weren’t some other threads I’d whored up.

When a well-driven 150 horsepower spec Miata showed me the quick way around,
I knew it was time to step up the program.

Transformed from an understeering pillow to a reasonably capable compact family sedan.
Tuning the chassis is invariably the easiest – and most rewarding – way to find speed.

My still-unfinished logbook of tweaks runneth over…details available upon request.

LILBENZ230

Splinter, what cars do you drive - specifically? I don't think I've ever read anything other than GMC.

splinter

hehe. The GMC is my workaday turd for schlepping about during carpentry business.

Our lowly 83,000+ mile ‘02 C32 AMG, although the wife’s daily driver, is the weekend machine.
As a man of unpretentious demeanor and modest means, it’s not typically my style to be entirely forthcoming.

Since you’ve kinda asked, a brief recap of its modifications:

H&R anti-roll bars
C55 Eibach (F) and H&R (R) springs
revised bump stops
selected W211 bushings
Porterfield R4-S pads
revalved Koni struts
revalved Bilstein dampers
de-staggered 8.5 inch front wheels
Michelin Pilot Sport 245 & 255 tires
corner balanced
altered caster, camber and toe settings
aftermarket exhaust manifolds
evosport’s 178mm dampened ODPS (~19 psi)
aftermarket heat exchanger
revised heat exchanger fluid circuit
altered ECU mixture strength and spark advance settings
Star DAS cooling fan and convenience adjustments
European specification bi-xenon headlamps
…and a few other goodies.

Its ace in the hole is that it appears boringly stock to the casual observer.
Given my druthers - wouldn’t have it any other way. Packs a decent wallop should the need arise.

Best part is I’ve come to personally make acquaintance with several fine gentlemen via this forum, and others from afar.

laneshift

I've gotten lucky before and smacked a flat 17 with my c240. Ridiculed at the track, though. Hahaha.

zerocover

Important note, no one was talking about cars with $10k thrown away on them, and there are much better cars to throw that kind of money away on then an evo. People dont call mustangs 10 second cars like its the end all and be all, a normal person says a modified mustang can run 10's. Likewise a modified evo can run 11's.

That's like saying a c280 can do 300+ mph, only later to say ... if I sell it and replace it with a plane.

PS the times listed on dragtimes.com are not all the same car. The fastest "stock" TC was listed at 15.8 but what constitutes stock? Grippier tires, gutted interior, running race fuel, in completely perfect conditions with the wind to its back, maybe the (factory option) supercharger too. On the other end of the spectrum someone was proud of a 16.9 @78mph. Were talking about the average scion tc not some magic hail marry run.

I find that when I go to the track my 1/4 mile times are very consistent, I dont drop 2 seconds from my time for no apparent reason.

I have no idea how you pulled off a 15.6 that makes your car faster then my c280. Major props to that. All I know is that car and driver puts the 07 c230 at 16.1 and they usually get crazy fast trans killing times (OP has a m272 so its a realistic goal for him). You have any memory of the conditions that day?