i think on the 135i vs 335i argument. Since the pricing between the two is within a few thousand...i would rather pay an extra 1-2k and get the utility of having a back seat with the 335i.

To the original posters question. I would suggest a 6sp manual 996 base 911. You can buy them on the use market for $24-32k. Its a well balanced car with decent power. The porsche shifter, shifts like butter. When you drive it, it reminds you of how the germans got there reputation of precision and quality.

If your willing to spend a little more you can get a 996 911 turbo for around $45k. Thats the next car i'm trying to save for.

that's somewhat true.

the E90/92 M3 only has 296lb-ft of torque, but it's gearing is absolutely perfect.

http://www.car-videos.net/articles/h...wer_torque.asp

my overall choice is this car... but soooo pricey.....i wonder what the resell price be after a couple yrs

seriously, ive seen this car on the road. it turns heads.



but im leaning towards the 370z because of the price point. it looks sleek...except for the saber tooths upfront...like dracula or some shiet....lol

That's why you replace it with the zele body kit! I don't like the front bumper or the rear bumper but the shape, body, and stance of this car is amazing! It almost looks like a wide body. It's just an extremely aggressive look to me that I can't go without noticing. And it's a coupe! Ive always liked the 350z's but they were never aggressive enough for me...but these 370's woooo!

My first choice was c55 but I figured if I am going to buy a new car I want to at least get a different car. Only thing with the old M3 is it is kinda of played out. But that was my 2nd choice then I realized I wanted something new. Then the 335i came along and I can honestly say I don't have an excuse for this car. I love it myself but I really just want to give a Japanese car a go. I already have my euro

And the comment about the 135i and z4 being a chick car...haha i didn't want to say anything but since you brought the cat out of the bag...

If you have to have a Japanese coupe, there is one alternative if you want to be different. The NSX is now in the affordable range, and it's certainly unique, and definitely not a chick car.

facelifted versions are still expensive. lol The more affordable ones I've seen are pre-95s. it's a great car, but with the package and technology 370Z offer for the similar money. It's hard to not swing for the brand new car.

I totally agree with you in that regard - for me, the NSX would be more of an emotional purchase than a purely numbers, performance, and dollars one - I just think that they're cool cars in general. Like my lust for 2002tii and 3.0CSi Bimmers; I know that there are "better" cars out there that can run laps around them, but I still want them in my driveway.

I'd take the facelifted one over the 370z any day. the old flip up headlight would be a hard sell for me to take the nsx over the Z34.

Ferreal! NSX's are siiick but like frank said for the ones in my price range I just can't see myself choosing and NSX over the Z. As far as numbers, performance, dollars goes...I don't think anyone can argue that the 370z is a bad choice, which is why I am making it my first choice. If I decided to go the cheap route then I will be picking up something I am surprised nobody has mentioned. The infamous Mazda RX-7 (it won't be a daily so relax!)

If I had the money right this instant. a guy in walnut is selling his for 26K with (i think) 450HP with veilside body kit, remarkable paint job, rotora BBK and gramlight 17" wheels.

Here is the link: http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...e&rdpage=thumb

that's a nice RX7 except I'd take the sound system out and leave it stock.

With the same powertrain as the 335i, not sure why the 135i would be the "chick car" but the 335i wouldn't be.

Chick car = VW Beetle
Go-Kart = 135i

real guy drives Shelby GT500...

That Zelle 370z Is Nice But My Future Ride Will Be a Evo9 Or EVOx.

Below Is a Beautiful EvoX




One Beautiful Evo Followed By Another





None Of These Cars Are Mine Nor Do I Own The Pictures...

Before the G37, I had a 06 Mustang GT 5MT.

Unfortunately, the interior-by-playschool grew old really quickly.

some old guy in the new GT500 revved at me when I was in my C32.

the new one looks great tho. new front made a huge difference in looks.

OneOfaKindTrini, that evox looks hot!

but reminds me too much of fast n furious days. i wouldnt want that to be my daily driver though, but as a summer/weekend car, that be sick man. draws too much attention.

i love the c32/c55s

they are so stealth

will not attempt to run a GT500 tho. LOL

back to your topic, Z4 vs 370Z. Z4 is great if you get the 35i, but value wise can't beat the 370Z for overall package for money spent.

I've looked at the STi and the EVO X closely...other than performance and looks. The EVO X is really crappy in terms of quality. the STi feels 10x better built in every respect from the moment you pull the door handle to feeling the texture of the dash board etc. IMO.

edit: spelled moment with money...lol

I don't know. I just don't feel any soul in the Evos, and STi's. The STi more than the evo like Frank stated but still they aren't something I can see myself having pride in. These cars are just light weight, with a good engine and factory turbo. Evo's get off the line but their gear ratio on a highway is very poor.

I also just can't convince myself that a sedan will give me the same sporty feel as a coupe. All these things mixed with the fact that almost every 18 year old kid who's parent's could afford the EVO or STI has one.