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Old 03-05-2010, 10:01 AM
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Can you hydroplane with 4-matic?

Ok, I have STFF for this and all I came up with were threads concerning tires and RWD c classes. What I want to know is, if there is a pool or stream of water on the freeway can I hydroplane if I have 4-matic(or any awd system really) and all season tires? I don't try to hit pools of water but sometimes you can't avoid it if it's raining and there is a small stream going across all lanes. And bear in mind that I live in Utah where drivers rarely drive according to the conditions(or posted speed limits). If you drive slower than all the other traffic you're creating a whole other road hazard all together.
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yes. You can hydroplane with fwd, rwd, aWD, 1 WHEEL DRIVE..running, walking. The quality of tires will effect whether you hydroplane more then the drive train. Awd will give you a little bit better traction but cannot prevent hydroplaning.
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You might be the most paranoid buyer ever. This is like the 300th thread you've created about researching the 203 without buying one. As has already been said, you can hydroplane in anything.
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Its AWD not GOD, your chances of hydrolaining are much less in a 4matic than any other MB, but its still possible!
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So true! I'm usually this scrutinizing with a lot of my purchases. I'm not picky, I just know what I want.
I'm pretty sure I'm going to get the W203 instead of the BMW or Infiniti. Now it's just a matter of finding one at a good price.

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Originally Posted by nathandimond
So true! I'm usually this scrutinizing with a lot of my purchases. I'm not picky, I just know what I want.
I'm pretty sure I'm going to get the W203 instead of the BMW or Infiniti. Now it's just a matter of finding one at a good price.
he is defiantly a German car driver in the making lol. GL finding a nice w203 i see way to many of them in my area with no miles and interiors 10x worse then mine with 142k it makes me sad lol. What model are you looking for? Go amg you will not regret it. if they are to expensive go for c350 if you can't get that go 05 c320 if you want face lift that is otherwise c320 ftw lol.
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Its AWD not GOD, your chances of hydrolaining are much less in a 4matic than any other MB, but its still possible!
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he is defiantly a German car driver in the making lol. GL finding a nice w203 i see way to many of them in my area with no miles and interiors 10x worse then mine with 142k it makes me sad lol. What model are you looking for? Go amg you will not regret it. if they are to expensive go for c350 if you can't get that go 05 c320 if you want face lift that is otherwise c320 ftw lol.
hahahahahaha totally a german car driver in the making

+1 on the AMG
C350's are hard to find and you pay a premium becasuse of that, if the 230 is just to slow for you, adn you need some more oomph but are on a budget i bow to the 05 C320 lol if you go the 230 route DEFINITELY get a V6, its super smooth, not as mod friendly, but faster stock then the 230K and the 7G Transmission plus all the new software is total win.
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maybe in your world
Actually in my world too. Drive to the wheel makes no difference with whether or not you'll hydroplane. You go from being a driver, to a passenger.
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+1 AWD will make no difference in hydroplaning.
If the water can not escape fast enough from under the tires, it does not matter what you have AWD or any other drive.
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it does not take all 4 tires to START a hydroplane though, if 3 tires are lifted off, one tire with traction can still be enough to pull out
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speeding, raining, wet road, a puddle of water, that's all you need buddy... all the fancy safety features of the car will help you, but it's all about how the driver reacts.. i hydroplained in my previous car.. stupid me driving at 90mph and it's raining, hit a post, wrecked the car (350z)
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Originally Posted by timmynabenz
it does not take all 4 tires to START a hydroplane though, if 3 tires are lifted off, one tire with traction can still be enough to pull out
In my world, the front tires lose traction first. And then if only one rear tire loses traction, the car spins.
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bottom line is that 1 tire with traction can keep your car from hydroplaning, so you guys can say all you want but a if your 1 wheel with traction is a front wheel i would like to see how a 4matic handles as opposed to a RWD
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Originally Posted by timmynabenz
bottom line is that 1 tire with traction can keep your car from hydroplaning...
No, try again. One wheel cannot control a car when the other three loose traction. It's like black ice.
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No, try again. One wheel cannot control a car when the other three loose traction. It's like black ice.
i am not a noob driver or new to driving in extreme conditions, i know cars.
over it.

ANYWAYS! You would love a 4matic! Whatever 203 you end up with though im sure you will love too
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Originally Posted by timmynabenz
i am not a noob driver or new to driving in extreme conditions, i know cars.
over it.

ANYWAYS! You would love a 4matic! Whatever 203 you end up with though im sure you will love too
anyways, you're incorrect. no need to add info that's not accurate.
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lol if you go the 230 route DEFINITELY get a V6, its super smooth, not as mod friendly, but faster stock then the 230K and the 7G Transmission plus all the new software is total win.
You just made this up. As if your hydroplaning BS weren't laughable enough, this is the stupidest thing I've heard all day. The 7G with the 2.5L V6 is a terrible combination with stupid gearing and the 230 V6 7G is one of the slowest 203s you can get. It is an established fact (please see Mercedes' OWN testing) that the 2006-2007 C230s are SLOWER than the Kompressor I4 models. Smooth? Yes. Fast? None of these cars are fast. As for the C320 comment.. okay.. 189hp is respectable for a 1.8L S/C I4. 215hp is absolutely pathetic for a 3.2L V6 and had to be near the bottom of the class by the end of the C320 in 2005.

Aside from that, I'm pretty sure Nathan was looking at C350 4Matic cars. The M272 3.5L is the best engine he can get in the non-AMG W203. The rest really are just "meh".

That's two times in this thread you've blatantly spouted off misinformation. Please don't pollute this forum with your random guesses. There's no shame in not knowing what you're talking about - until, that is, you pretend that you do.
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You can hydroplane in anything that has tyres in contact with the tarmac - or in the case of hydroplaning - not sufficiently in contact with the tarmac due to excessive water.
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hahahahahaha totally a german car driver in the making

+1 on the AMG
C350's are hard to find and you pay a premium becasuse of that, if the 230 is just to slow for you, adn you need some more oomph but are on a budget i bow to the 05 C320 lol if you go the 230 route DEFINITELY get a V6, its super smooth, not as mod friendly, but faster stock then the 230K and the 7G Transmission plus all the new software is total win.
One thing that you are spot on with is that the V6's are the models to get and that includes the 2.5 litre. Unless you are a boy racer it performs admirably & most of the motoring scribes in Europe would agree with you.

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You just made this up. As if your hydroplaning BS weren't laughable enough, this is the stupidest thing I've heard all day. The 7G with the 2.5L V6 is a terrible combination with stupid gearing and the 230 V6 7G is one of the slowest 203s you can get. It is an established fact (please see Mercedes' OWN testing) that the 2006-2007 C230s are SLOWER than the Kompressor I4 models. Smooth? Yes. Fast? None of these cars are fast. As for the C320 comment.. okay.. 189hp is respectable for a 1.8L S/C I4. 215hp is absolutely pathetic for a 3.2L V6 and had to be near the bottom of the class by the end of the C320 in 2005.

Aside from that, I'm pretty sure Nathan was looking at C350 4Matic cars. The M272 3.5L is the best engine he can get in the non-AMG W203. The rest really are just "meh".

That's two times in this thread you've blatantly spouted off misinformation. Please don't pollute this forum with your random guesses. There's no shame in not knowing what you're talking about - until, that is, you pretend that you do.
Its funny how you say i dont know what am talking about and im randomly guessing, having owned four Mercedes on my own (not even including my families countelss Benz's), worked on them all, spent countelss hours working with my friend who is MB tech to learn these cars, obsessed over them since i was 3, and spent hundreds of hours doing research on Mercedes down to every last safety feature and tech gadget.

Do you know how to read? I guess not.

I said that for a budget choice but still with more oomph than a 230, go the 2005 C320 route. i never said it was a rocket because its not.
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...if the 230 is just to slow for you, adn you need some more oomph but are on a budget i bow to the 05 C320...
I also never said any of the 230's were fast. I said that the V6 was fastER than the 230K but never said it was fast.
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...if you go the 230 route DEFINITELY get a V6, its...fastER stock then the 230K ...
I know what the "mercedes tests" say. which is why i was planning to get a 230K instead of a V6, however i have raced 3 different Kompressors and the V6 is in fact faster. If your so confident then lets race and shut you up for good.

And yes the V6 230 is one of the slowest w203's you can get, thats why its at the bottom of the lineup you idiot.

You may say the combo is stupid and the gearing sucks but you own a 230K. i had my friends 2005 C230K for a month, about 1500 miles, before i bought my V6 C230, and i can say that the V6 with the 7G is 10x smoother, more refined, and definitely is a bettter combo.

Next time you call somebody out check your facts first, that way you dont sound like a complete idiot and get owned like you just did.
And another thing, religion doesnt cause hatred, idiots like you, who are total hypocrites and say NO HATE but then act like this do,

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We also need to remember that in ROW we have the C180K & C200K & some diesels like the C200/220CDI below the small V6's which makes the lineup make more sense than in the US. Of course with the W204 we now have the C180K - 1600cc BlueEfficiency to add to the bottom of the lineup.


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