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Old May 2, 2010 | 12:53 PM
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to go ceramic or non?

I was cleaning my car today and was checking out the brakes. I always went ceramics due to fear of that sqeaking noise. But are oem's ceramics or semi?
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Old May 3, 2010 | 03:22 PM
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OEM's are definitely not full ceramic. They're soft as isht.
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Old May 3, 2010 | 03:27 PM
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what would be a good ceramic pad to switch to with oem rotors?
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Old May 3, 2010 | 04:11 PM
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Granted that the OEM's are softer and there is a lot of dusting issues, but only the soft ones bite the roter better and brake better, the harder the pads the more brake pedal force needs to be applied.........for the car to stop....I have semi metalic's on and have to push the pedal real hard for it to stop..................just my 2cents.
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Old May 3, 2010 | 05:07 PM
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I myself use Akebono's Ceramics. They're OEM on a lot of JDM cars. As in actual JDM, not USDM with JDM mods.

And yes, OEM's are definitely a lot better when it comes to aftermarket pads. They do dust a lot more, but it's all because of the great response the oems give. But since I myself try not to put myself in situations where extreme braking situations are needed, I'm fine with less dust and more life. The OEM's are softer compound, which in turn causes less noise and more dust, with better bite.
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Old May 4, 2010 | 02:46 PM
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Akebono ceramic pads rule.
PERIOD!

Start with fresh rotors as the pads last forever.
I have 75K on my fronts, and they'll easily be going to 100K.

No squeal at all.
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Old May 4, 2010 | 04:59 PM
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So if I were to purchase a set of Akebono ceram pads, where do I find them and do they make them for my car?
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Old May 4, 2010 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Mu9enx
I myself use Akebono's Ceramics. They're OEM on a lot of JDM cars. As in actual JDM, not USDM with JDM mods.

And yes, OEM's are definitely a lot better when it comes to aftermarket pads. They do dust a lot more, but it's all because of the great response the oems give. But since I myself try not to put myself in situations where extreme braking situations are needed, I'm fine with less dust and more life. The OEM's are softer compound, which in turn causes less noise and more dust, with better bite.
I couldn't agree more. I've only been using them for 300 km so far and zero brake dust!
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Old May 4, 2010 | 06:45 PM
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OEM or Akebono Ceramics

OEM has a very slight better initial grip but the brake dust kills it.

Akebono FTW
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Old May 4, 2010 | 07:15 PM
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Get Akebonos at tirerack.

I had to switch from them on my Racing Brake 2-piece rotors, as they don't get along too well. Otherwise, I'd still be using them - they're great.
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Old May 4, 2010 | 07:35 PM
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i thought you were reffering to tint. ceramic tint is awesome. ceramic brakes, i have not yet tried.
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Old May 4, 2010 | 09:00 PM
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Kinda off topic, but its time for me change my pads and this time i want to change to aftermarket equipment to see if there is any real improvement on braking.

What do you recommend for stock rotors:

Front: EBC Green Stuff or Akebono Ceramics
Rear: EBC Red Stuff or Akebono Ceramics

Will they warp the stock rotors faster???
I dont care for noise, i just want dependable braking with reduced dust while not harming the rotors. Theyre cheaper than stock pads, so i want to give 'em a try. Where do i look for them? i know theres tirerack, but is there a better site?

Thanks
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Old May 4, 2010 | 09:04 PM
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EBC is horrible. I know e1000 has tried them and says Akebono is much better.

Stay away from EBC

Like I mentioned before in my post OEM or Akebono..nothing else.
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Old May 5, 2010 | 03:29 AM
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i have akebono on mine, no brake fade. Seems about the same as stock in terms of braking power.
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Old May 7, 2010 | 03:59 PM
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I installed Akebono ceramics on my 05 C230SS, and love them. Braking is nearly the same as OEM; I barely notice any difference at all. The best part is that there is practically no dust whatsoever !! My OEM rear pads dust FAR MORE. Where previously my front wheels would look black with brake dust after a few days while the rear wheels still looked clean, now, my fronts look nearly clean after > 3 weeks.

I'm actually wishing my rears needed to be replaced, because I'd put Akebono's on the rears too. But I only have about 48K on my car, so the rears still have enough pad for at least another 25K or so.

Be careful as to the part #'s for these. Took me a little while to determine what was the correct part #'s. I'll post them later this evening when I get home, as well as the site I got them from.

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Old May 7, 2010 | 04:39 PM
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I replaced rears that had plenty of life on tthem, cuz I was getting more dust on the rear than the fronts, after I switched to Akebonos up front. OEM pads and rotors seem to eat each other up. I hope to have my Akebonos and R1 Concept drilled/slotted rotors for a good long time!
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Old May 8, 2010 | 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Cintoman
I installed Akebono ceramics on my 05 C230SS, and love them. Braking is nearly the same as OEM; I barely notice any difference at all. The best part is that there is practically no dust whatsoever !! My OEM rear pads dust FAR MORE. Where previously my front wheels would look black with brake dust after a few days while the rear wheels still looked clean, now, my fronts look nearly clean after > 3 weeks.

I'm actually wishing my rears needed to be replaced, because I'd put Akebono's on the rears too. But I only have about 48K on my car, so the rears still have enough pad for at least another 25K or so.

Be careful as to the part #'s for these. Took me a little while to determine what was the correct part #'s. I'll post them later this evening when I get home, as well as the site I got them from.

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Yea can you please post the part number and where you got them from
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Old May 9, 2010 | 11:56 AM
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Part # for Akebonos Front Pads

Hey Guys,

So I found the part number for the Akebono front brake pads. Please note that these are for a 2005 (and up) C230 Sport with the single piston calipers.

The part number is: Akebono EUR1121.

I checked out several sites when I was looking to buy them, and a few of them had the incorrect part number, where others were saying it wasn't available. However, I think now all the sites have the correct one.

I searched on tirerack, rockauto, and placeforbrakes. Placeforbrakes had the lowest price, and free shipping.

I included some pics of my install....

Warning Message on the MFD:


Akebono Package:


Part number closeup:


Package contents:


Since my rotors were pretty grooved, I purchased some new Zimmerman ones:


Rotors:


Rotor Diameter:


Rotor Weight:


Original Rotors on my car after about 40K miles:


Caliper removed with original pads and wear sensor:


New Rotor Mounted:


New pads and sensor installed:


Hope this helps everyone out.

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Old May 9, 2010 | 12:19 PM
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So akebono also comes with sensors?

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Old May 9, 2010 | 04:01 PM
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This is great information! i am about to have to do my fronts, so I will go with the Akebono. Thanks for all the information!
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Old May 9, 2010 | 06:13 PM
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Am I loosing it or my memory bad because I thought C230 in 05 (some 05s) 06 and 07, had twin piston front calipers and only the C350 had anything different for 05-07
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Thanks for the info Cintoman
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Old May 9, 2010 | 10:38 PM
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Am I loosing it or my memory bad because I thought C230 in 05 (some 05s) 06 and 07, had twin piston front calipers and only the C350 had anything different for 05-07
I think it is 2 piston on the front calipers
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Old May 9, 2010 | 10:48 PM
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I think it is 2 piston on the front calipers
It's definitely two-piston. I think he was thinking one piston on each end. That's what I was thinking when I read it.
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Old May 10, 2010 | 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by bdgdl08
It's definitely two-piston. I think he was thinking one piston on each end. That's what I was thinking when I read it.
You're right...it's two piston. My thinking was what bdgdl08 said above. And yes, the Akebono's come with 2 sensors, even though my late build 2005 (built 04/2005) in the front only has a sensor on the passenger side.


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