Yes you are right for that but they are build there for your market not the Euro market and the ones in brazil are build for North and South American market, if you have DAS Xentry machine when connected to the car it shows the market code which is three letters, also searching on WIS and EPC there is the same specific market code wich shows the market groupe the car is for sale in so before talking check first.

Once agean for the C Class : after 2002 all markets are divided as three groupes Europe ( Euro build only for Europe ), North / South America ( Brazil build only for North / South America ) and the rest is in South Africa for that region and Vietnam for the Asian region.

I dont say M111 is the smoothest and problem free engine as you can see in my post, it is simply a racing engine put in production as a regular one thats why it runs this way and thats why it has so much power and can run up to 285hp only on engine without the SC and thats why it went on the DTM in the early 90's . And there are people saying that vertions of the M111 with 320hp exist.

Matt - at the time that article was written the intention was a gear drive - scrapped & put into production with belt drive due to noise from the gear drive. I did not want to edit the quote lest I be accused of doing so. I'm not the only one on the forum with a copy. I heard a prototype gear drive running on one of my many trips to Benz in my global job. Howled like a banshee Some liked it but once again no good for Benz NVH reputation.

South Africa built the W203 for RHD Europe markets such as UK, for Asia and for Australia & New Zealand etc. Much as BMW SA do.

For the W204 South Africa was given the contract for North America with top-up from Germany - Most US 204's come from here. For W205 production goes to Tuscaloosa 2014/15 for US & South Africa will go back to supplying Australasia & topping up China & Vietnam production. MB's predicted largest growth market. Brazil has not built for NA since 2002.

The M111 was not a racing engine, it comes from humble beginnings & was adapted into racing much as BMW's 4 pot banger was adapted to a turbo racing engine.

I don't need you to instruct me on the STAR DAS, WIS or EPC - I'm fully "au fait" with all of them. You need to do your homework on Benz & it's history, supply & systems.

I really don't think I've seen such BS posted (and subsequently repeated over and over against ALL reason) here ever before. Thanks Glyn for setting the record straight repeatedly.

Anyone who reads this post should know to:

1. Disregard all information put forth by the user hkirov as it is factually incorrect on virtually all accounts.

2. Take note for factual accuracy the posts of user Glyn M Ruck

I find it very interesting (and humorous) that we're being told that we own cars built in Brazil, even when our window stickers, VIN numbers, and identification stickers on our cars tell us they were assembled in Germany. What does Mercedes know, anyway? Obviously they should have consulted hkirov.

Indeed - it's a pity our kirov ballerina decided to beat up on a newb who was asking for advice. You might remember we all contributed to an SC to CLC thread a while back & I would have been more interested in the conversion than a lot of crap.

https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...?highlight=clc

It is sad to see pit row converted into a ladies' beauty parlor. Wow!!!

I noticed the OP, who asked for some simple help, has not returned to this thread after all the bickering began. I think that makes a very strong statement. We should strive for better.

It's certainly sad that this thread became derailed. Your comment, however, from one who does nothing but pass inane comments on the 204 forum, once again adds nothing of value.

alpinweiss +1

I agree that it is unfortunate where this thread went. At the same time if a person on this forum is posting blatantly incorrect information those of us who know better should correct it. How many guests come here for information but never register? We owe it to them to make sure the information is correct when we can.

Hey guys,
Just an update on what is happening. So obviously I went with the best option and picked a M271 engine. I plan on using it for daily use and maintaining it regularly so it was the best oiption. I appreciate everyone's input on the matter, and like I stated before I will keep you all updated. I respect people that stood up and said we need to respect the forum, and memebers associated, considering we all need to protect factual information and not just post the bs that comes off the top of our head.We all are enthusiats so why can't we act like so.
With that said, thanks to all for your factual and insightful input and I will post pics soon. For all of those who wanted to threadbash me for being sensible and happy with my C230,...

EAT ME!!!!

Sincerely,

Benznwb

lol hope it goes well for you as long as you are happy ignore the idiots lol

Sensible choice - good luck & keep us posted if the guys have any electronic adaption problems.

Again, welcome to the forum. We were afraid you had left after all the arguments began.

dang im gone for a week and this breaks out? wow.


anyhow congrats on the new motor man! may it serve you well =)