head lights xenon help
i just got my benz a few weeks ago. i though it had factory xenon head lights (so i order new ones) but it does not. they seem to be aftermarket. well i got new bulbs and i went to replace them and theres a problem. u just cant replace the bulb. the old bulb and the wire harness is one unit. so my new exnon bulb cant be used.
is there a way i can find out what aftermarket exnon lights might be in my car so i can order new 6000k exnon bulbs??
i will update with pics. the xenon bulb is wired to the wire harness
Heres a picture of one. It cuts off but you can see the wires coming out of the bottom.
Last edited by fookoo303; Jun 5, 2010 at 01:48 PM.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/H7-D2...item3ef2627b1b
and this connecting wire:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-Xen...item45f336ccfa
With these you could use your new bulbs
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/H7-D2...item3ef2627b1b
and this connecting wire:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-Xen...item45f336ccfa
With these you could use your new bulbs



It looks like someone did a "conversion" from incandescent to HID by changing the base on a counterfeit HID capsule.
OEM lamps are carefully manufactured with properly formulated metal salts and xenon to yield the correct color temperature and brightness to meet FMVSS 108. The base on the bulbs are manufactured with high dielectric strength to avoid failure caused by arcing from the 25KV starting voltage. OEM lamps last about 2000 hours.
Counterfeit lamps with an H7 base do not have the insulation protection necessary for safe operation and often fail by arcing through the material, sometimes causing a fire that damages the housing. The incandescent housing is not made of materials to properly prevent arcing of the trigger wire.
The biggest problem with these conversions is the beam pattern. The source of light is very different in HID lamps, and the reflector in the housing for H7 lamps cannot be adapted you give a correct beam pattern. I have measured the temperature and brightness of converter "kits" and the measurements show about 25% less light than the specified halogen H7 lamps. The color temperature is often a lot less than the sales literature. OEM lamps are stock 4300 K, and some 6000 K lamps are available. As the color temperature goes up, the amount of blue light increases. As it increases the relative illumination goes down. People driving with very blue lamps are making a fashion statement, but they see less of the road. I think people have adopted the blue look as fashionable because early HID systems in luxury cars used a reflector design that had a defect that looked blue when observing the headlight. Projection housings corrected that problem.
With all this bad news about inexpensive conversions, is there any light at the end of the tunnel? (pun intended)
Yes. The W203 H7 lamp housing is one of the best on the road today. The amount of light on the road is very high, and the illuminated area is very even. The large reflector and lack of a Fresnel lens (2005+ cars) contributes to that.
I would respectfully suggest you buy a set of H7 lamps from GE or OSRAM (Sylvania) and call it a day for $50.
It looks like someone did a "conversion" from incandescent to HID by changing the base on a counterfeit HID capsule.
OEM lamps are carefully manufactured with properly formulated metal salts and xenon to yield the correct color temperature and brightness to meet FMVSS 108. The base on the bulbs are manufactured with high dielectric strength to avoid failure caused by arcing from the 25KV starting voltage. OEM lamps last about 2000 hours.
Counterfeit lamps with an H7 base do not have the insulation protection necessary for safe operation and often fail by arcing through the material, sometimes causing a fire that damages the housing. The incandescent housing is not made of materials to properly prevent arcing of the trigger wire.
The biggest problem with these conversions is the beam pattern. The source of light is very different in HID lamps, and the reflector in the housing for H7 lamps cannot be adapted you give a correct beam pattern. I have measured the temperature and brightness of converter "kits" and the measurements show about 25% less light than the specified halogen H7 lamps. The color temperature is often a lot less than the sales literature. OEM lamps are stock 4300 K, and some 6000 K lamps are available. As the color temperature goes up, the amount of blue light increases. As it increases the relative illumination goes down. People driving with very blue lamps are making a fashion statement, but they see less of the road. I think people have adopted the blue look as fashionable because early HID systems in luxury cars used a reflector design that had a defect that looked blue when observing the headlight. Projection housings corrected that problem.
With all this bad news about inexpensive conversions, is there any light at the end of the tunnel? (pun intended)
Yes. The W203 H7 lamp housing is one of the best on the road today. The amount of light on the road is very high, and the illuminated area is very even. The large reflector and lack of a Fresnel lens (2005+ cars) contributes to that.
I would respectfully suggest you buy a set of H7 lamps from GE or OSRAM (Sylvania) and call it a day for $50.
+1. i agree to this. An even better option is do to a projector retrofit or buy a set of depo projectors which will greatly improve your lighting performance. Or to reduce glare use a D2R bulb instead. Won't be perfect since its still in a non xenon housing but other drivers will appreciate it.
Depending on how much money you want to spend, you can pick up a set of OEM Bi-Xenon units for your car. Expect this to cost somewhere in the $800-1200 neighborhood. I don't find that worth it.
Depending on how much money you want to spend, you can pick up a set of OEM Bi-Xenon units for your car. Expect this to cost somewhere in the $800-1200 neighborhood. I don't find that worth it.
im not looking to spend alot on head lights!
i spend my money on baby food and dipers ha.
i just wanted to replace the 8000k exnons head/fog light with 6000k ones.
i have to say i really dont like working on somthing someone else played around with. who knows what short cuts where made to make it easyer for them.



