Stuck in 1st gear until restart
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Stuck in 1st gear until restart
2006 C230, 55K miles
7 speed driver adaptive automatic transmission with manual option
3 times in the last few weeks I have had an issue where on normal acceleration from a stop the car would not automatically shift up from first. No luck with forcing it by using the manual option. Each time I immediately pulled over and restarted the car which resolved the issue. There were no weird transmission sounds or any sign of issue. Anyone else experience this? Could it be a computer glitch since the restart seems to resolve it?
7 speed driver adaptive automatic transmission with manual option
3 times in the last few weeks I have had an issue where on normal acceleration from a stop the car would not automatically shift up from first. No luck with forcing it by using the manual option. Each time I immediately pulled over and restarted the car which resolved the issue. There were no weird transmission sounds or any sign of issue. Anyone else experience this? Could it be a computer glitch since the restart seems to resolve it?
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The car is going into limp mode. It resets when you reboot by restarting. Get hold of an OBDII scanner & check for codes. Check tranny fluid level - not easy with a 7G - no dipstick tube.
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You were correct about the car being in limp mode…the cause according to the service department is a transmission valve sensor that without the warranty would have been $3,000.00 to fix…that’s no decimal error, they said 3K! I was shocked at the cost. Anyway, the part is on order and they will install next week.
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Valve body & electrohydraulic unit problems can be damn expensive to fix. This is why I encourage people to service their transmissions.
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Just curious to hear from the OP. Did you have your transmission serviced before this incident?
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You were correct about the car being in limp mode…the cause according to the service department is a transmission valve sensor that without the warranty would have been $3,000.00 to fix…that’s no decimal error, they said 3K! I was shocked at the cost. Anyway, the part is on order and they will install next week.
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Once the parts come in and the service is done I will post all of the details. I have asked them to replace the fluid and filter as well which they said will cost me $150…no complaint on that since my cost could have been $3150.
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A transmission failure at 55k miles? Unacceptable. Did Honda build this transmission or something?
A car that can't make it more than that many miles without needed $3000 in repair costs is not a car worth owning. Mercedes has offered you nothing in the way of goodwill? I must say in your shoes I'd get rid of it ASAP and never look at Benz again.
A car that can't make it more than that many miles without needed $3000 in repair costs is not a car worth owning. Mercedes has offered you nothing in the way of goodwill? I must say in your shoes I'd get rid of it ASAP and never look at Benz again.
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I have to admit, if the repair wasn’t being done under warranty I’m sure my feelings would be different on this. Since it is all being taken care of though, I’ll just shake my head in surprise at the cost and count myself lucky it didn’t happen at a higher mileage. The parts are supposed to be in on 8/12 so I’ll hopefully have the work done that day or the next. As mentioned, I’ll post the detail from the work order.
Last edited by cg_06c230; 08-04-2010 at 06:52 PM. Reason: fixed the parts delivery date.
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A transmission failure at 55k miles? Unacceptable. Did Honda build this transmission or something?
A car that can't make it more than that many miles without needed $3000 in repair costs is not a car worth owning. Mercedes has offered you nothing in the way of goodwill? I must say in your shoes I'd get rid of it ASAP and never look at Benz again.
A car that can't make it more than that many miles without needed $3000 in repair costs is not a car worth owning. Mercedes has offered you nothing in the way of goodwill? I must say in your shoes I'd get rid of it ASAP and never look at Benz again.
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I have to admit, if the repair wasn’t being done under warranty I’m sure my feelings would be different on this. Since it is all being taken care of though, I’ll just shake my head in surprise at the cost and count myself lucky it didn’t happen at a higher mileage. The parts are supposed to be in on 8/12 so I’ll hopefully have the work done that day or the next. As mentioned, I’ll post the detail from the work order.
EDIT - make sure your car has the latest 7G software flash.
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Pics or ban Unless you have some strange one off 722.9 transmission, which I doubt, no 722.9 transmissions have a dipstick tube. They have a standoff pipe in the transmission pan and level is checked at correct temperature allowing excess fluid to drain out the standoff pipe.
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The parts came in early and the work was done today. The work order is a bit hard to decipher but here are the main items: Electrohydraulic control unit for 722.9, transmission turbine speed sensor, transmission valve body, and misc gaskets.
It drove fine on the way out; I had to go about 30 miles on the highway to get home. The shift timing felt different but they mentioned I could expect that since the transmission needed to re-learn my style(?)… anyway, here’s hoping nothing else goes bad since the warranty is officially up shortly.
Thanks all for sticking with me on this.
It drove fine on the way out; I had to go about 30 miles on the highway to get home. The shift timing felt different but they mentioned I could expect that since the transmission needed to re-learn my style(?)… anyway, here’s hoping nothing else goes bad since the warranty is officially up shortly.
Thanks all for sticking with me on this.
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Pics or ban Unless you have some strange one off 722.9 transmission, which I doubt, no 722.9 transmissions have a dipstick tube. They have a standoff pipe in the transmission pan and level is checked at correct temperature allowing excess fluid to drain out the standoff pipe.
I spoke to a real expert and he said the forum was right.
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The parts came in early and the work was done today. The work order is a bit hard to decipher but here are the main items: Electrohydraulic control unit for 722.9, transmission turbine speed sensor, transmission valve body, and misc gaskets.
It drove fine on the way out; I had to go about 30 miles on the highway to get home. The shift timing felt different but they mentioned I could expect that since the transmission needed to re-learn my style(?)… anyway, here’s hoping nothing else goes bad since the warranty is officially up shortly.
Thanks all for sticking with me on this.
It drove fine on the way out; I had to go about 30 miles on the highway to get home. The shift timing felt different but they mentioned I could expect that since the transmission needed to re-learn my style(?)… anyway, here’s hoping nothing else goes bad since the warranty is officially up shortly.
Thanks all for sticking with me on this.
The tranny is auto learning so it will have to re learn your driving preferences. If it has the new flash you will get used to some subtle new changes in behaviour that are permanent. Johnand might wish to expand on this. He is accustomed to a 7G in everyday driving & can explain the new changedown program when running up to a stop etc better than I can. He has been through the various generations of improved software for the 7G.
Good luck