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C230 Sport Coup + 2006 W164 ML350 + 99 Ford Escort (What the heck, it gets 38 mpg!)
This post lives still! If anyone needs to download the pano files, they are still here.... http://benzexpert.com/files/pano.zip
Ignore the crap about 'not being secure'.
The site was put up years ago and I need to purchase a security cert and
redo the whole site in htttps . What a PIA.
There's no active content, it is safe.
BTW- I had to stop using my sunroof. But I have bigger issues, the supercharger and alternator need replacing as well as some pulleys and the wife
turned the garage into a storage unit making it impossible to perform vehicle repairs. Arrgh!
Hello everyone!
This post seems very old, but I read it all through, looked at all the PDF manuals, all was very helpful, but I haven't found answer to my question. So, the back story.. I have my C180 (2004) coupe a year now and first, when I tried to fully open sunroof, it got this grinding sound and some plastic piece fall from roof and after that I couldn't close it. So far nothing new, mostly the biggest problem with sunroof is motor. Probably mine is dead too. But, I took my car to service as I didn't know a thing about sliding roofs, to close it and take a look, what is the problem. So service guy sending this picture of railing guide...
Inner supports has broken plastic brackets. I have looked all over the internet to find this part, but no luck. And I couldn't find anyone solve this problem, only by changing all the guide.. But again, as much as I was looking for all the guide with good inner support, no luck. In junk yard all of the inner supports are with broken plastic too... I do 3D modeling and 3D printing stuff, it would not be a problem for me to print it out too, but I don't have any example of how it should look like...
So my question is, how much this plastic bracket effects sunroof work? Maybe I am too worried about this stuff, instead I just could change motor and grease everything really good? Will this be enough or still I need to replace all the guide? Or maybe can help out with just those inner supports?
Those plastic pieces help transport the panel.
They are broken from age and heat and the stress of the roof traveling without the rails being greased regularly.
You could try greasing the rails and repair/reinforcing the motor.
The motor gears are available on ebay now.
All the problems with these roofs are from lack of maintenance and the stress of moving that huge piece of hot glass.
Hello everyone!
This post seems very old, but I read it all through, looked at all the PDF manuals, all was very helpful, but I haven't found answer to my question. So, the back story.. I have my C180 (2004) coupe a year now and first, when I tried to fully open sunroof, it got this grinding sound and some plastic piece fall from roof and after that I couldn't close it. So far nothing new, mostly the biggest problem with sunroof is motor. Probably mine is dead too. But, I took my car to service as I didn't know a thing about sliding roofs, to close it and take a look, what is the problem. So service guy sending this picture of railing guide...
Inner supports has broken plastic brackets. I have looked all over the internet to find this part, but no luck. And I couldn't find anyone solve this problem, only by changing all the guide.. But again, as much as I was looking for all the guide with good inner support, no luck. In junk yard all of the inner supports are with broken plastic too... I do 3D modeling and 3D printing stuff, it would not be a problem for me to print it out too, but I don't have any example of how it should look like...
So my question is, how much this plastic bracket effects sunroof work? Maybe I am too worried about this stuff, instead I just could change motor and grease everything really good? Will this be enough or still I need to replace all the guide? Or maybe can help out with just those inner supports?
Hi, I have similar problem with panoramic roof. It was broken. Did you manage to print the part?
I found one expert, who is repairing our car panoramic roofs. He is from Spain. And from him I understood a lot of things. Firstly, those plastic pieces, which I showed on image, actually doesn't affect roof functionality. It just helps roof to stay in place. So, if your roof doesn't work, you should check you motor first.
I can give you his expert contacts, if you wish. He is really good at it and can help you to fix your roof.
I know, that this parts has broken. The roof is able to open, but unfurtunetly the parts were broken so the roof can't able to close. I need this parts and i think i will make with 3d printer. Please give me expert contact.
12 Years and this post is still going strong.
Keep up the good work guys!
3D printing these parts is going to be the only way to keep these sunroof's working into the future.
Hi, I bought used guides, glass and motors, because I had a car accident. I removed old parts and I tried to install new ones, but left and right guide is out of sync. Does anyone know how to fix this?
Also where needs to be this black metal part on the right, when glass is mounted?
Last edited by ivanivanusic; 03-22-2023 at 04:35 AM.
Open the roof and unmount the motor from the gear.
Then shuffle the roof to get it straight or in sync as best as you can and remount the motor and try it.
That black arm has to travel through the plastic.
Are the factory instructions still showing up on this thread?
Open the roof and unmount the motor from the gear.
Then shuffle the roof to get it straight or in sync as best as you can and remount the motor and try it.
That black arm has to travel through the plastic.
Are the factory instructions still showing up on this thread?
so if I discinnect motor, I can free move left and right side independetly?
Finally I managed to set things up.
Roof still not working perfectly, shade works fine.
But I still have issue where is whole glass shifted to the back of the car and wind deflector is loose. How to align glass properly? Also I don't know what is part 7 in the manual for glass installation(Sheet metal lug), maybe there is problem with glass shifted to back of the car.
I recently purchased a W203 Kompressor 2005 with the Panoramic Sunroof. I had similar issues as stated above with grinding motors, which I fixed by swapping the right one to the left and vice versa. This didn't fix my issue where the sunroof would only open up about 10cm and then stop. After many hours of investigation, I found the following
The problem was with the arm that retracted and it was getting stuck. It took some time to work out that the housing of the arm, which is plastic, was slightly cracked and therefore not having enough pressure to push the arm into the track. My solution was to file down the insert which travels along the guide rail so the housing didn't have to do all the work
Once I filed this, it stopped catching in the track and it then was able to retract all the way. I did find heaps of broken plastics, but this was stopping the sunroof moving past this point. Hope it will help someone out.
I*m also in Australia , Bathurst NSW , following this thread closely as I*ve just purchased a 2007 C180 Kompressor coupe with the sunroof not working After watching some Youtube videos managed to get the sunroof open ( both motor receptacles were pulled out of their respective control sockets) but not fully just to test operation. Howver on pushing close button , motor grinds and sunroof won*t close . Took to dealer but at $258 an hour will attempt myself . Hopefully a 2nd hand motor and lubricating the tracks will close the sunroof . Not interested in getting it working , just want it closed .
03-27-2022, 10:08 PM
