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Old 12-13-2010, 10:14 PM
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What functionality will I lose?

I have the normal stock dumpster juice speakers and radio in my 2007 C230. I went to the aftermarket audio dealer looking to get a dual din Kenwood DDX616 put into my car with after market speakers and amp. I'm not saying that the guy is right or wrong, i just want to fact check what he said. He stated that if I put an aftermarket radio in my car, I will lose the ability to adjust my clock in the dash menu, plus other various things will not work in the dash menu? The Kenwood does have an adapter you can use that will allow the steering wheel controls to operate the radio, but whether I get this adapter or not, I lose functionality in the internal dash menu.

What functionality will I lose exactly? Thanks in advance.

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I don't think you'll be losing the ability to change your clock.. that has nothing to do with your headunit I imagine.. Well I'm getting my unit install on Wednesday so maybe I could answer some of your questions then.
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Thanks, please do.
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We set the radio though the gauge cluster...

Worst case scenario your MOST loop will get messed up and you'll have to take it to the dealer to reprogram it. Other people have done after market head units with no problems.
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We set the radio though the gauge cluster...

Worst case scenario your MOST loop will get messed up and you'll have to take it to the dealer to reprogram it. Other people have done after market head units with no problems.
what should i tell the dealer?
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My installation should be done in 3-4 hours. will post an update. i bought the unit from caraudiocraze.com, the dynavin one. looks like oem. will post pictures in a little bit.
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So I got my car back, everything is great. Sorry it's really rainy and dark outside so I haven't mess around changing the time on the cluster. I'll do that tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by xzstarszx
So I got my car back, everything is great. Sorry it's really rainy and dark outside so I haven't mess around changing the time on the cluster. I'll do that tomorrow.
Are all the steering wheel functions still operational? Pics!
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Originally Posted by mistachy
I have the normal stock dumpster juice speakers and radio in my 2007 C230. I went to the aftermarket audio dealer looking to get a dual din Kenwood DDX616 put into my car with after market speakers and amp. I'm not saying that the guy is right or wrong, i just want to fact check what he said. He stated that if I put an aftermarket radio in my car, I will lose the ability to adjust my clock in the dash menu, plus other various things will not work in the dash menu? The Kenwood does have an adapter you can use that will allow the steering wheel controls to operate the radio, but whether I get this adapter or not, I lose functionality in the internal dash menu.

What functionality will I lose exactly? Thanks in advance.
not true! we own a car stereo chain and i can personally tell you that's false unless you don't get the steering wheel control module of course.
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Originally Posted by mistachy
I have the normal stock dumpster juice speakers and radio in my 2007 C230. I went to the aftermarket audio dealer looking to get a dual din Kenwood DDX616 put into my car with after market speakers and amp. I'm not saying that the guy is right or wrong, i just want to fact check what he said. He stated that if I put an aftermarket radio in my car, I will lose the ability to adjust my clock in the dash menu, plus other various things will not work in the dash menu? The Kenwood does have an adapter you can use that will allow the steering wheel controls to operate the radio, but whether I get this adapter or not, I lose functionality in the internal dash menu.

What functionality will I lose exactly? Thanks in advance.
wait a second what the hell! come by my shop your like twenty minutes away! lol where did you go? http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/...E/393647488626
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I know they have controlls that you can still use your steering wheel buttons on aftermarket stereo systems. I believe Rollnnn has them which Jerry installed. Might want to hit up Jerry or Rollnnn
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I know they have controlls that you can still use your steering wheel buttons on aftermarket stereo systems. I believe Rollnnn has them which Jerry installed. Might want to hit up Jerry or Rollnnn
Karo is talking about a steering wheel interface. Thats what Jerry installed in Roland's car I think.

http://www.pac-audio.com/productDeta...&CategoryID=29

Heres another one too

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...xess-ASWC.html

Here's a list of options too.

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/cat_i...nterfaces.html

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Just to confirm the OP question, after installing an aftermarket headunit, you can still change the time on the cluster. If you get those mentioned adapater, everything should work as normal. I'll post pics up tomorrow guys since it's really dark right now.
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Originally Posted by phister
Karo is talking about a steering wheel interface. Thats what Jerry installed in Roland's car I think.

http://www.pac-audio.com/productDeta...&CategoryID=29

Heres another one too

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...xess-ASWC.html

Here's a list of options too.

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/cat_i...nterfaces.html
That's the one..thanks bro
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That's the one..thanks bro
Yeah I was looking for it for awhile too lol... thinking about upgrading my audio system since I dont have the nice factory Harmon or Bose system.
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wait a second what the hell! come by my shop your like twenty minutes away! lol where did you go? http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/pages/CAR-AUDIO-WAREHOUSE/393647488626
i went to all pro audio and ams car stereo. i was working with jimmy but he got sick and i went over to curtis at ams, and hes saying the same thing. they say that the internal dash gets the time from the stock radio. once the stock radio is removed, the time cant be adjusted internally. which adapter should i tell him to use?

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Originally Posted by mistachy
i went to all pro audio and ams car stereo. i was working with jimmy but he got sick and i went over to curtis at ams, and hes saying the same thing. they say that the internal dash gets the time from the stock radio. once the stock radio is removed, the time cant be adjusted internally. which adapter should i tell him to use?
have you purchased anything yet? i would like for you to come to our location. you can pm me if you would like.
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have you purchased anything yet? i would like for you to come to our location. you can pm me if you would like.
I wish I could but thy are doing the install as we speak. I can bring it if I have an issue.
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I wish I could but thy are doing the install as we speak. I can bring it if I have an issue.
you can bring it if you want bass and speakers i recommend hertz or diamond audio.
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Man, mistachy, you passed up gettin the hook up from a forum member. I woulda told AMS to shove it up their blow hole (esp after all that talk of losing functionality) and go see mike
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Man, mistachy, you passed up gettin the hook up from a forum member. I woulda told AMS to shove it up their blow hole (esp after all that talk of losing functionality) and go see mike
Well I already paid my deposit days ago and they have my interior in pieces with 3 guys working on the car, so it'd be kinda difficult to back out now. I'm doing 10 inch pioneers in the deck. We will see how they sound. I'm doing focals in the doors and the head uunit id the kenwood ddx616
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Well I already paid my deposit days ago and they have my interior in pieces with 3 guys working on the car, so it'd be kinda difficult to back out now. I'm doing 10 inch pioneers in the deck. We will see how they sound. I'm doing focals in the doors and the head uunit id the kenwood ddx616
i'd have them just do the stereo. as far as the subs, you're rear deck is probably going to rattle like hell. my suggestion is putting a nice 12" woofer in the back in a ported box and take out the factory ten to be used as a port. dude i'm only 19 but i have more experience than any shop you can possibly imagine with the w203. we have 2.
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here is a snap shot of them at work as we speak
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i'd have them just do the stereo. as far as the subs, you're rear deck is probably going to rattle like hell. my suggestion is putting a nice 12" woofer in the back in a ported box and take out the factory ten to be used as a port. dude i'm only 19 but i have more experience than any shop you can possibly imagine with the w203. we have 2.
I'm going to try and work out the raddle issue best I can but I only wanted deck speakers. I haved 2 mtx 12s ported in my bmw but I just don't bang like that anymore. I listen to mostly talk rradio now. And ill be watching movies in the car mostly.


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