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Old May 2, 2003 | 09:09 PM
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Replacing all bulbs in the front.. need help

i plan on replacing my headlights bulbs and dont want to buy HIDS so what bulb can i get that will resemble the hids. IM looking for a bright color with out the apc cheap healdight bluish bulb. I want all of the front to match colorwise. The local place around my area sells bulbs called "showoffs" for 50 bucks so i was wondering if any of you used this bulb or heard of it? i wanted to replace the fog light bulbs as well? How much should i expect to pay for the clear corners in the front? thanks guys sorry for so many dumb questions
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Old May 2, 2003 | 10:24 PM
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I suggest using the search feature on this site and typing in "replacing bulbs" or "front bulbs" or something to that extent. You'll get mad results with plenttttty of help. By the way many people will prefer the PIAA 4500k or whatever the temp. is everyone says there bright as hell.

Also Matt230k might help he got a nice whited out front. Give it a few minutes for some help ...
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Old May 2, 2003 | 10:34 PM
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I would suggest forgetting about it.

HID works because of hi luminance not the blue color. Blue is the WORST color you can use for actually seeing.

This is why high end fog lights are yellow - yellow = high contrast visibility.

Also, I spent about $250-300 on stupid blue bulbs when i had my BMW. I finally gave up and bought HID. For around $300-350 you can get the real deal.

Save yourself some grief and go for the real deal.
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Old May 2, 2003 | 11:29 PM
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I disagree with Peet. Most people that get HID's or blue bulbs or red bulbs or any color but stock are not interested in "better vision." No one living in the urban area cares about seeing x more miles down the road. Those of you living out in the suburbs and out in the country may be worried about that deer running 2 miles down the road but for the majority of us looking for better looking lights, that's the last thing on our mind. Benzino get the blue bulbs or hyper, hyper white lights -- it looks much, much better then stock.

If you get any more -negative- responses i'll help you but usually theres a few good helpful responses out of the bad ones.
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Old May 3, 2003 | 12:57 AM
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Originally posted by 02Impressor
I disagree with Peet. Most people that get HID's or blue bulbs or red bulbs or any color but stock are not interested in "better vision." No one living in the urban area cares about seeing x more miles down the road. Those of you living out in the suburbs and out in the country may be worried about that deer running 2 miles down the road but for the majority of us looking for better looking lights, that's the last thing on our mind. Benzino get the blue bulbs or hyper, hyper white lights -- it looks much, much better then stock.

If you get any more -negative- responses i'll help you but usually theres a few good helpful responses out of the bad ones.
Benzino -- you are lucky to not have blizzards in CA, otherwise 02Impressor would also give you some good advices on how to pile snow on top of your car. Let's hope that you, unlike him, are not preparing yourself for a Darwin Award contest finals.
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Old May 3, 2003 | 02:08 AM
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Before I got the bi-xenons I used PIAA extreme white 4150K, it was as bright/slightly brighter than stock bulbs. The colour of the light is white with slightly bluish tint and it looked really good. The downside is that these bulbs are quite expensive (about $60). I have 2 pairs (used) of these, PM me if you're interested.
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Old May 3, 2003 | 08:58 AM
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EUROLITES by Toucan Industries. Xenon gas, bright white with a slight blue tint.

I have these in all my vehicles and I love them.

You can buy them on ebay for about $15-20 a pair.
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Old May 3, 2003 | 12:31 PM
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Xenon gas in a halogen bulb is nothing but a marketing gimmick. It doesn't do a damn thing.
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Old May 3, 2003 | 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by Lynn
Xenon gas in a halogen bulb is nothing but a marketing gimmick. It doesn't do a damn thing.
They don't actually put xenon gas in them, do they?. I didn't think it was just a marketing gimmick, I thought it was a total lie.
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Old May 4, 2003 | 12:43 AM
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They don't actually put xenon gas in them, do they?. I didn't think it was just a marketing gimmick, I thought it was a total lie.
From the point of view of physics, adding inert gas (such as Xenon) makes no sence since it would reduce the bulb's capacity of holding halogen, which in turn would worsen its light output.
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Old May 4, 2003 | 09:18 AM
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Originally posted by vadim
From the point of view of physics, adding inert gas (such as Xenon) makes no sence since it would reduce the bulb's capacity of holding halogen, which in turn would worsen its light output.
The amount of xenon gas is miniscule. It is added only to fool the uninformed, and keep from being sued or prosecuted.
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Old May 4, 2003 | 11:35 AM
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Originally posted by Lynn
and keep from being sued or prosecuted.
Yeah, that's enough reason right there.
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Old May 6, 2003 | 05:23 PM
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k dont laugh to my stupidity when it comes to cars.. my friend said that he upgraded his bulbs on his mustang and burnt his harness or something so whats the maximum watts i should put in my car or minumum.. thanks
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Old May 6, 2003 | 05:34 PM
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The stock 55 watt bulbs are the minimum, and I wouldn't use anything of 80 watts.
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Old May 6, 2003 | 07:09 PM
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I'm using 100w bulbs for low and 55w for hi's.
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Old May 6, 2003 | 09:56 PM
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Originally posted by 02Impressor
I'm using 100w bulbs for low and 55w for hi's.
Melted the sockets or distorted the headlight housings yet?
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Old May 6, 2003 | 10:22 PM
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Melted the sockets or distorted the headlight housings yet?
Where are you getting these theories from?
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Old May 6, 2003 | 10:42 PM
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Where are you getting these theories from?
Since when did one sentence, heck, one question = a theory?

The higher wattage bulbs have been known to melt the housings and sockets *in other applications*...again, not a theory, just something that Ive READ here.
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Old May 7, 2003 | 12:08 AM
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Since when did one sentence, heck, one question = a theory?

The higher wattage bulbs have been known to melt the housings and sockets *in other applications*...again, not a theory, just something that Ive READ here.
A theory is an assumption based on some form of information you've gathered. Again, the way you told the fellow that you wouldn't recommend anything above 80w and then asking me whether I had melted any sockets made me think that you're speaking from experience. From what I've heard on this forum, no one has yet to melt anything with the exception of one or two people that either screwed up an installation or used the cheapest of the cheap bulbs. Other then that, 100w is safe IMO.
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Old May 7, 2003 | 10:03 PM
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A theory is an assumption based on some form of information you've gathered. Again, the way you told the fellow that you wouldn't recommend anything above 80w and then asking me whether I had melted any sockets made me think that you're speaking from experience. From what I've heard on this forum, no one has yet to melt anything with the exception of one or two people that either screwed up an installation or used the cheapest of the cheap bulbs. Other then that, 100w is safe IMO.
Lets talk about assumptions, junior. You don't even have the right poster. Lynn made the recommendation to stay below 80W, not me.

My question was had the bulbs melted the housing or the sockets...simple. No theory, no supposition, no assumptions. 100W is nearly double the normal wattage, I would be concerned, personally, that the extra heat- especially coming into the summer, would distort or melt the plastic reflector, lens, or socket housing.

No, I'm not speaking from experience, just saying that I have READ here about higher wattage bulbs melting the tail, marker, and plate illumination sockets/housings.

My headlights are still stock- at least the main beams. I replaced my city lights with the quad hyperbright LED's that Drew recommended...looks pretty cool. Front turn signals are also LED, and boy are they bright.

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Old May 10, 2003 | 06:35 PM
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Did you also replace your side markers? They are listed as 2825s or 5W. I have clear side lamps but need to put amber bulbs in, do 194s interchange?
They have LEDs for replacing the 194s, at $9.99.

Thinking of replacing the rear stop lights with LEDS, there is actually a safety advantage using LEDS for brake lights.

My Lincoln Mrk VIII has a large brake light that lights up 0.2-0.3 seconds before a regular bulb. It has actually caused an accident as the bozo following too close behind me braked, but the even dumber tailgatter behind him slammed into him.
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Old May 11, 2003 | 01:05 AM
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Outland,
Did you also replace your side markers? They are listed as 2825s or 5W. I have clear side lamps but need to put amber bulbs in, do 194s interchange?
They have LEDs for replacing the 194s, at $9.99.

Thinking of replacing the rear stop lights with LEDS, there is actually a safety advantage using LEDS for brake lights.

My Lincoln Mrk VIII has a large brake light that lights up 0.2-0.3 seconds before a regular bulb. It has actually caused an accident as the bozo following too close behind me braked, but the even dumber tailgatter behind him slammed into him.
No, I don't intend to either. Its not worth the $ Investment. I did replace the rear tailight brake lights with LED's...not sure if I'll keep them. The light pattern isn't as pleasing. I know, I know...they come on faster, but they are so concentrated.

Keep in mind that the LED based 194's aren't as bright as 194 tungstens. They may say they are, but they are dimmer. I'm thinking of adding another LED inside the housing, so the light 'washes' around the reflector better. I used the LEDs in the turn signals to eliminate the dark/orange cone in the top half of the housing...it does do that quite well.

One mod that I haven't take pictures of yet- I replaced the rear 'aux' light that illuminates the thinnest portion of the tail light- with a red bulb. It totally eliminates the 'pink' that some people complain about when looking at the lights from nearly above them.

The LED city lights are my faves thou...really looks clean.

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Old May 11, 2003 | 01:18 AM
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Looks like an old forum here, but I figured incase anyone is still following, you can move over to this thread to find out about some cool signal bulbs:

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...=silver+xtreme
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