Originally Posted by ncmudbug

I think if you want to compare quality, you need to compare the specs on the rod ends on both kits. The picture isn't clear, but it looks like they could be rubber isolation type rod ends where Ghostrider's are spherical rod ends.

Spherical rod ends are more precise (they are what are used in race cars), but some say they are prone to wear from dust and grit - I hope not because that's what I have on my Lotus! Others say that the compression pre-load fit between the the ball and the race tends to wipe the grit away so it doesn't get to wear it out. Again, rod ends vary quite a bit from brand to brand and applications within the brands. Higher load rating generally translates to higher pre-load and thus tighter fit between the race and ball. Some people who are really worried about grit getting between the ball and the race wrap the joint with tape. I've also seen rubber boots.

The rubber isolation type rod end would absorb shock and vibration a bit better, though I don't notice any adverse effects from them on my Lotus. Like any rubber joint, the rubber can degrade from from use and then the question becomes, can you get more of them? I have seen joints like this from third party vendors, but the spherical rod ends are easier to find (for me, at least - though I've never looked for metric sizes).

I am not saying this is the case here, but sometimes the manufacturer will make their product prettier instead of making it better (it's cheaper to dress it up than make it better). Also, consider that it will be under the car and you'll never see it - and even if you do, it's unlikely that many other people will!

Just to look at the pictures of both kits, I don't see anything to suggest that either of them are made cheaply, they just took a slightly different approach. It all depends on the relative quality of the rod ends.

Originally Posted by Xhale707

Well its true? Im not trying to be mean or flame. But i don't see 180 dollars worth of anything here.

Originally Posted by C230 Sport Coup

Can I get them in blue? he he he.....

Originally Posted by cpbeasley

So, do you now?

Originally Posted by ROLLNNN

Ghostrider, my tire/wheel is just a few mm's from the inside of the fender(pic below). Ive had to do a lot of fender work to get it to this point and don't really want to do any more. If i install these, does it pull the bottom of the wheel in or push the top of the wheel out?

Originally Posted by Xhale707

Nope its still **** i don't wanna flame anymore on something hes trying to make some money on. Just by looking at both ill save up 30 more and have a blue rod hanging out my rear end. Bushings are there for a reason.

Originally Posted by ncmudbug

I misunderstood your kit. I thought yours had spherical rod ends. In that case, it looks like both kits are very similar in function. I agree that bushings are probably more appropriate for the road. I don't need them for my car, but I think I would lean toward your (Ghostrider's) kit. The blue is pretty, but the stark, no-nonsense appearance of Ghost's kit appeals to me (and I like to save $$). In the end you have to make yourself happy.
Not as much as I would like.
I've have had some teething (it's a ground up rebuild with a lot of mods) and maintenance issues that have required two people and between my work and my buddy's schedule, it doesn't get worked on as much as I'd like. I WILL get it on the road for spring!!!

Originally Posted by cpbeasley

Literally we miss having it this weekend by two days, huh? That stinks, oh well, I'll at least be there the following week, thanks for the invite. I'll probably go to see my folks this Saturday now that I think about it. Using his shop to install the new projector headlamps.
Anywa, I love first watch even if they are pretty proud of their eggs and toast
I've only been to the one in Westport, where exactly it is on SMP? Perfect location for me too, 15 mins away at best.
Do you want to plan on bringing the camber kit at that time for the exchange?

Originally Posted by fookoo303

how much are the bushings? and will they fit into a tvt design camber kit?

Originally Posted by Karo

These will be needed when a vehicle is dropped correct? Ghostrider's looks more heavy duty to me than the painted ones. If this will be needed for a drop I'll definitely get one.

Originally Posted by C230 Sport Coup

How about a group buy for $150 ? 10 sets?
I been needing something like this for a while but the cost of
parts, install, and alignment.....
It's been cheaper just to let the car eat tires.

Originally Posted by C230 Sport Coup

Hmm.... 170....
and that would be in blue?

Originally Posted by C230 Sport Coup

How about a group buy for $150 ? 10 sets?
I been needing something like this for a while but the cost of
parts, install, and alignment.....
It's been cheaper just to let the car eat tires.

Originally Posted by Ghostrider@P1 Performance

Here is what the complete kit looks like now:



Yeah, it may not be flashy but it works!!

Originally Posted by phister

I like how the body is a hex so you can use a wrench to hold it while tightening.