phister

Thanks man! Thats good to know a good starting point. I have a wheel alignment leveler so I'll see how close it is to specs Oh by the way you have a tracking # for me

allan1

Why exactly you need to use bushings instead of spherical ends?
Whats wrong with using spherical ends on everyday street car?

phister

I think its because after awhile the spherical ends wear quicker and that debris can get into the ends and cause squeaking. If spherical was better, wouldn't you think that OEM parts would used it more instead of bushings. But I'm just assuming.

allan1

I have installed my custom camber arms with heavy duty spherical rod ends, but I havent driven the car yet.
How fast do they wear out?
Whats that talk about knocking sound?

Ghostrider@P1 Performance

If you want to see the environment these arms live in, take a look here:

https://mbworld.org/forums/members/g...-shop-car.html

allan1

Yes I know about the enviroment... But what was the actual reason you dropped spherical rod ends and went with the rubber?
Was it noise, vibration or smthing else?

Ghostrider@P1 Performance

They would eventually become loose and squeak.

phister

Just got the kit! Great quality Melvin! cant wait to install it.

Ghostrider@P1 Performance

Awesome!! I'm glad you like it, and next time I'm in my paypal account I will refund the difference for the Group Buy.

phister

hey mel you have a pic of the kit installed on a car? I'm just looking for a reference on how they should look.

Ghostrider@P1 Performance

Check out the pics in the link on post #55 and here is some extra info:

https://mbworld.org/forums/clk-class...tructions.html

phister

Ahhhh thanks a ton Mel... I'll be doing it tomorrow and post more pics up.

ncmudbug

Just looking at the "old" setup with the spherical rod ends. It looks like the race material did not go completely around the ball. I was just curious if that was indeed the way they were?

phister

yes thats the way alot of spherical rod end ***** are constructed, it gives it more freedom of movement i think.

Ghostrider@P1 Performance

Yes, that's exactly how they were. Which was fine for race cars, hot rods and customs, just not daily drivers.

Ghostrider@P1 Performance

Awesome!! You can also spray a little silicon on the ends for installation.

phister

Thanks! Think I have a can laying around in my garage somewhere

ncmudbug

Sorry, I wasn't clear. I understand the thickness of the outer race will not cover the entire ball. For example, there are high-misalignment rod ends that have intentionally thinner rod ends so what is mounted through the hole in the ball has more angular movement. What I'm talking about is the race material didn't seem to go completely around the ball's circumference, but there appeared to be two patches on opposite sides. In the picture entitled "P1 Performance Engineering Camber Kit" from the link on reply #55, there are two red patches (possibly Teflon) that appear to be the outer race of the bearing but there doesn't appear to be any race material elsewhere.


Note in the pictures of other rod ends, the race seems to go completely around the ball. This arrangement is what I am used to. I was curious because I thought if they were they way it seemed, that they might be more prone to grit and dirt getting between the ball and the race.

fookoo303

any kind of warranty on those bushing ends?

phister

Ok did the install heres some pics of the install:







Before:




After

tommy

Nice improvement. Though I wish you would have painted them purple.

phister

Haha it'd get too dirty

Ghostrider@P1 Performance

Ghostrider@P1 Performance

I'm glad you were able to get it done! It looks great!!! How is the ride??

Ghostrider@P1 Performance

What kind were you thinking?