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Old 02-15-2011, 03:59 PM
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I was following this on the xf forums! Glad to see its made its way over here, but I would still LOVE to see someone stuff an m113k into a standard w203 or better yet id like to see that 6.2L v8 m156 with matching 7 spd in a standard w203 :x

Anyone know the weights of the following motors:

M112
M112k
M113
M113k
M156

Just curious to see the weight differences between the motors.
Old 02-15-2011, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TruTaing
I was following this on the xf forums! Glad to see its made its way over here, but I would still LOVE to see someone stuff an m113k into a standard w203 or better yet id like to see that 6.2L v8 m156 with matching 7 spd in a standard w203 :x

Anyone know the weights of the following motors:

M112
M112k
M113
M113k
M156

Just curious to see the weight differences between the motors.
I couldn't find them listed by engine model, but I found an older list. From Here. It's a decent starting point. I would assume that due to advances in metallurgy, and the increased complexities the engine weight is similar, if not a little less. Considering what these numbers say, I'd bet you can guess within 50lbs what a M112 or M113 weighs. Add 30+lbs for the supercharger and necessary accouterments.

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Old 02-15-2011, 07:55 PM
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THE C350
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no all na? he he and what might that be? So C63 no SC and E63 SC?
na = naturally aspirated
all the 63s are Naturally aspirated
Old 02-15-2011, 08:45 PM
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M3s are pretty nice, I agree.
That was a good one
Old 02-15-2011, 09:36 PM
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An E55k engine swap will crap on a C55 with a Kleemann Kompressor any day. You'll surprise a lot of C63s as well. The sleeper looks is definitely more worth it too
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Originally Posted by mskembo
Speaking from a place of complete ignorance (when it pertains to MB performance) The hottest W203 ever made was the C55, so taking a W203 and putting a 55K engine in is like taking a C55 and putting a Kleeman supercharger on it, but instead of pushing that stock C55 engine harder than it was intended you are using an engine that was designed and built with the Kompressor calculated into the equation. Also, it's really about the same amount of money since the Kleeman supercharger kit is roughly $10K.

As to dropping a V10 or V12 into a W203... sorry I need some alone time.
This sparked a new question for me (which knowing this crowd of great minds has probably already been answered). But has anybody done side by side comparsion (initial hp/tq output, and then maintainability/reliability over lets say 50-100K mi) between a 55K stock engine and a NA modified Kleeman??? Just curious

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