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Old 08-13-2011, 03:19 AM
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Strange Noise: Timing Chain

Hey guyz, really need HELP this time. I had a car accident about 3 months ago which cost me about 5000euros to get the car back in the streets. When i firstly took it for a ride I heard a strange noise - cant describe it specifically but it sounded like a pulley was damaged and didnt rotate normally. when i took the car to a friend of mine he said that the noise was coming from the timing chain area. The noise can be heard when the car's rpms are idle or at low rpms then it disappears. I suppose that there is a damaged in the timing chain or the plastic things around it and when it is stretched it disappears but when loose it produces the sound. any ideas ? Im a little bit afraid of touching the timing chain cause it is very delicate

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You can try replacing the tensioner for the timing chain (NOT the tensioner for drive belt).
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Does the chain area make a noise when you first start the car after it has stood for a while and then quieten when the oil pressure comes up?

If so it is either the chain tensioner or the cam timing mechanism. Only fix is to replace the chain & tensioner & deburr the cam timing arrangement or replace it.
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no it doesnt go off. it is a persistent same strange noise
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New chain tensioner may be able to resolve the issue.
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its holiday time this season arrrgghhhh and i have to wait
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It could still be the chain tensioner & cam adjuster. It must be absolutely shot though because it should quieten as oil pressure rises as it is hydraulically operated.
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unplug the cam advance actuater and tell us if the noise goes away?
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its a strange noise. I ve heard how bad chains are heard over the youtube, they rattke. the noise I hear isnt rattling! its like whirring, something like whistling, "scream", like a bad pulley u know what i mean ?
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People on this site recommend removing the auxilliary belt & to run the car for a very short time . This will tell you whether the noise is coming from this system or not.
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Originally Posted by Carsy
People on this site recommend removing the auxilliary belt & to run the car for a very short time . This will tell you whether the noise is coming from this system or not.
ermmm auxiliary belt ?
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unplug the cam advance actuater and tell us if the noise goes away?
u mean the magnet at the front ?
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i 4got to mention that i removed both belts and the noise was still there
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u mean the magnet at the front ?

yes unplug the magnets electrical plug
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on monday I will, the car is locked in the repair shop
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Are you absolutely sure it is not the Poly V belt (aux belt) tensioner. A common failure & squeels.

Take the belt off & run the car. If the squeel goes it narrows down to pulleys, tensioners, water pump, PS pump, HVAC compressor, alternator.
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Ill try again friend but as i recall, i removed both poly-belts and the noise was still there
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Poly V belts M111

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yeah thats right friend, i removed both of them and the noise was still there
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Oh! dear - Then it's inside the chaincase.
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hope so as to get it fixed cause I'm very "strict" about everything on my car - especially the engine and this particular noise drives my crazy!
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I had a whining noise and had the drive belt replaced. Fine now.
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but as i mentioned, i removed both belts and it was still there!
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but as i mentioned, i removed both belts and it was still there!
sorry, I misread your post. Just take it to a mechanic. They should be able to diagnose it pretty quick.
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