grinding, clunking noise coming from the engine wont start anyone have an idea what might be wrong i would greatly appreciate for any help THANKS

 

lol u dont need a new engine...

check fuse 52 in trunk, cps, starter, battery fuel plump

 

Fuse 52 is under the hood RHS. Make sure you have not thrown a timing chain. Happens on M271 engines.

 

glen at 70k miles should i replace the timing chain? (just to play it safe) im at 52k now...

 

I thought we have metal timing chain.

Don't that last for the lifetime of the car? you do have a 05 c230k?

 

Given your headline, cars do run better when they have an engine.

 

yea i have the 05 c230 but if that chain slips a tooth..thats gunna cost thousands..

just like the lifetime seal transmission fluid (dumb germens) hahahahahha

just after our wallets

 

if i rolle the car back a little bit it will start and make crazy noise in engine it seems and it shuts of the belt wont turn

 

Nothing is lifetime. Timing chain isn't lifetime.

 

Okay.. <---- To clearify. I am getting the beating. For the sensitive crowd.

Then how often should the metal timing chain should be change.

 

video possible?

 

55k engine replacement

 

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Are you fu*king serious?? A Metal damn chain is not forever. There is nothing on a car that is forever. Some people changed the chain at 100k, some at 150k some at 200k.

Do a little search online before questioning me! Shove that smiley up your ***!

Over time, wear on internal working parts of your engine will spell the need for replacement. One of the internal working parts that wear is the timing chain and timing sprockets. The timing chain and sprockets are the connecting line between the crankshaft and the camshaft. As the crankshaft turns, via the timing chain, it drives the camshaft that operates the engine's valves via the lifters, push rods and rocker arm assemblies The timing of the valves opening and closing at precise intervals is crucial for proper engine operation. As the timing chain and sprockets wear, this precise timing of the valves gradually changes, eventually to a point where replacement is necessary. Telltale signs of worn out timing chains are:
Rough idle.
Sluggish performance and poor economy.
Sudden engine performance change including the inability to start the engine.
Intermittent backfire through the intake manifold.
Inconsistent ignition timing or a clattering noise coming from the front of the engine.

 

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Glad we are amusing your Mike!!

Was it you who once asked me about the timing chain at the meet? Over time, the chain will wear down and the links will become looser. Its called "stretching" but it really does not stretch, per say. This can cause the engine to be out of time and therefore not run efficiently. The worst case scenarios is that the chain will jump a tooth or potentially break causes severe engine damage (not common)The causes is poor maintenance (not changing your oil regularly) and mileage. So with this in mind a timing chain is not forever. It doesn't have an interval but it's definitely not forever. Usually you can catch it before it's too late. commonly if you catch it early enough it's most likely a tensioner.

I also heard your cherry poped. You got your first CEL . Welcome to the club, see you tomorrow.

P.S. The timing chain isn't forever (especially if your drive like Milkman and myself)

 

Wrong Mike ... I know what a timing chain does and can and can't do but thanks for the lesson lol ... but behind that lesson is a story of Karo's starched rectum Hahahahaha
Yes I got the damn CEL ... see you later brah

 

lool last I heard yours was stretched. I heard they have been testing some tools on you in med school. Yup, see you later today broski

 

You and Milkman's wheels have a lot in common. Both your rears are extremely stretched lool

I can't believe he ran a 235 on an 9 inch wheel. That thing is stretched to the max.

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He ran a 235 on a 9 inch wheel and you ran a 9 inch. Slowly more stuff are in common lool

 

The M271 engine runs a very light single gang chain. If cars are well maintained & serviced it will go a long way. They have a history of not lasting the life of the engine. Just listen to the thing at cold start up. If the chain starts rattling then replace it. If it is silent it's fine.

 

My 271's chain is completely silent at all times, even on the coldest of starts. I'll be at 120,000 tomorrow.

Karo - that's a bit of an overreaction to a real question from 04mbC230. The entire car in and of itself isn't a lifetime object. The timing chain is expected to last the useful life of the car. That's open to interpretation, but if the car is 15 years old and has 300k miles on it when the timing chain snaps then that's the end of the useful life of the car because it's no longer worth the expense to repair the engine. In any event, that's the idea. Then for you to say "Nothing is lifetime. Timing chain isn't lifetime." goes against common perception and he was trying to clarify when you got pissed at him that he didn't accept your 7 words as golden without further questions.

Anyway - to answer the question - it shouldn't need a timing chain, especially at 52,000 miles, but stranger things have happened. The timing chain should last beyond the point where a repair would be justifiable on a car, but there are always exceptions and YMMV.

 

Matt excuse Karo he just started his period Haha

 

245/45/18 on a by 9 rim.....Dom runs a 215 on the same size rim