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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Glyn M Ruck
Regarding a DIY chain/tensioner replacement on the M271 I4. I do not have it & there are a couple of special tools that make the job a lot easier to feed the new chain & hold the camshafts in the correct position so that you get the valve timing correct to the crankshaft.

Maybe someone could post the method from the maintenance CD or Star.
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 04:02 PM
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JC - you are a star! Can't you post it as a pdf?

Johnand. You guys with the maintenance CD's & WIS that post pdf's. Do you need full Acrobat to do that?

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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 04:15 PM
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Glyn , I would be very interested to learn how to.

I have wis on an old machine as it will not run on my latest 64 bit computer.

I have downloaded PDF Creator but still have problems . When printing from Wis no option is shown for PDF.

Currently I just print & scan the copy!!

I will come to grips with it one day !!.
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 04:23 PM
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No need to apologise. You have been a great help. We will find out how the guys post pdf's from WIS. I'm sure it's simple. I have full Acrobat so conversions are easy from almost anything. Full Adobe Suite is expensive these days. I'm no IT nerd I'm afraid.

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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 04:42 PM
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You were right, Glyn, This is interesting. MB has a method to their perceived madness.
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 05:23 PM
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I replaced my chain/intake valves almost 3 years ago on my 2003 C230. Pics in the gallery: https://mbworld.org/forums/members/a...-teardown.html
Cost me ~$2000 to do myself, and I'm very mechanically inclined.

Good luck, I just got rid of my other M271 and won't own another.
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 05:38 PM
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I happened to be over my ex-mechanic's garage and there was a w209 clk 2006 with bended valves.... he said he'd cost over 3500 euros but he is a thief thats why he is my ex mechanic
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 07:43 PM
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I will convert to pdf for everyone tonight. If you need IT assistance, just ask... It's my profession, and will do my part to help this forum and MB community.
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Old Nov 21, 2011 | 12:50 AM
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^^ boom132 if he bent the valves he's going to need a lot more than that done
Intake/exhaust/cams all need to come out to get the cylinder head off.
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Old Nov 21, 2011 | 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Glyn M Ruck
Yes - the V6 models also use a duplex chain. The M111 might be a bit crude but it is a tough engine for sure.
Yes, crude. Like the smell of thine feet oh great one.
Well the M111 shared the leaky gasket issue with the W104 I think it is,
it's 6 cylinder cousin, both coolant leak on the rear cylinder.
Too bad it such a pain in the **** to replace.
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Old Nov 21, 2011 | 09:34 AM
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It cost $2000 to replace just the chain? Or $2000 to do it yourself once it had jumped time and damaged valves?

Glyn is right about my car. Have 123,200 miles today and chain is silent.
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Old Nov 21, 2011 | 11:19 AM
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I will convert to pdf for everyone tonight. If you need IT assistance, just ask... It's my profession, and will do my part to help this forum and MB community.
Thank you. Can you add the final page to the pdf please

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Old Nov 21, 2011 | 11:22 PM
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Old Nov 21, 2011 | 11:40 PM
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^^ boom132 if he bent the valves he's going to need a lot more than that done
Intake/exhaust/cams all need to come out to get the cylinder head off.
haha i saw ur pics of the 03 when ur fixing the engine

i hope that doesnt happen to my 05

is anything i can do to prevent jumping time or bending valves?
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 04:56 AM
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haha i saw ur pics of the 03 when ur fixing the engine

i hope that doesnt happen to my 05

is anything i can do to prevent jumping time or bending valves?
yes, committing suicide may end this once and for all!
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 07:29 AM
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Yes - read this thread!
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Old Apr 10, 2012 | 03:23 PM
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I am sick to my stomach, I believe my timing chain has also jumped time. I have a 103K miles and have serviced my car on schedule and am a fair driver. I am dissappointed that a $37K car did not hold up longer than 103K miles. I was expecteding at least 200K out this car before I experienced any major problems. Shoot I have a '94 Maxima that has 230K miles on it and still runs like a champ. I guess I will look for a new engine and spend the 3-5K to fix rather than purchase a new car and get a car payment.

Are there any Mercedes repair manuals I could purchase, I am thinking of doing the complete engine swap my self. Just looking at it, it does not look like it would be too difficult.
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Old Apr 10, 2012 | 04:15 PM
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What year do you have? And what makes you think it has jumped time?
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Old Apr 10, 2012 | 04:25 PM
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I have a 2005 C230, this past saturday I turned the car off and went for a visit of a friend, I came out to start the car and heard a loud pop and then it felt like the car was out of time. What makes me think it is the timing chain is earlier in this thread it was mentioned the noise made at cold start up. I did notice a noise at start up for about three months now, so making assumtions that if the noise was attribuited to the timing chain then it seems logical that the stress of start up caused the timing chain to jump.

If there are any suggestions of how to detemrine it is the timing chain I am all ears.
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Old Apr 10, 2012 | 04:28 PM
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Remove the cambox cover & examine.
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Old Apr 10, 2012 | 04:37 PM
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Sure thanks for the tips. I will advise what I discover.
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Old Apr 10, 2012 | 07:21 PM
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wow that stinks man hopefully it is not too bad.

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Old Apr 11, 2012 | 09:38 AM
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I'm doing this soon. No noise from my car, so I am hopefully not living on borrowed time - no pun intended.

How many miles you have on your 05, Dune?
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Old Apr 11, 2012 | 10:11 AM
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The silence from your car is a good sign but don't leave it forever. You want to pull through a new chain without having to replace anything other than the tensioner.
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Old Apr 11, 2012 | 03:21 PM
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