Need help, Radiator Removal , have pictures. Stuck on the last step.
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Need help, Radiator Removal , have pictures. Stuck on the last step.
So recently brought my car in for service at Mercedes Benz in Mobile, AL, they had damage my radiator at the transmission connection *LOW* side. I went for a transmission flush and now its leaking transmission fluid everywhere.Crack radiator, possible from the ATF machine putting out to much pressure and cracked it. I don't know exactly what type of radiator I have, Valer or Behr model. But I ordered a new one, it should be in tommorrow and I'm doing the job myself after those idiots wont fix it for me. Just want to charge me 1189 to fix it.
Got me a new radiator in shipping for 203 bucks at Carquest down the road from the stealership.
While its in shipping, I have been trying to remove the radiator. I'm on my last step. It wont come out and seems stuck. Can someone help me out here. Pictures below. I'm at the point where i push the radiator away and pull it up while I push the condenser away. But It will not come out. Everything comes up! m271 engine
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The radiator must be sitting on a mounting . Have you looked underneath the car & disconnected this mounting? . Some sit on rubber bushes with bolts running through them.
Can't believe MB would not come to the party seeing they did the damage.
Can't believe MB would not come to the party seeing they did the damage.
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The trans cooler lines are difficult to seat perfectly. Before you put the clips in, they have to be fully and firmly placed in. Add in that they have to be mounted in at the correct angle. You are working with a high pressure
Line.
I assume there are no restrictions or connections you are forgetting.
I am doing an oil change tomorrow, I will look to see what you may be missing.
Line.
I assume there are no restrictions or connections you are forgetting.
I am doing an oil change tomorrow, I will look to see what you may be missing.
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The trans cooler lines are difficult to seat perfectly. Before you put the clips in, they have to be fully and firmly placed in. Add in that they have to be mounted in at the correct angle. You are working with a high pressure
Line.
I assume there are no restrictions or connections you are forgetting.
I am doing an oil change tomorrow, I will look to see what you may be missing.
Line.
I assume there are no restrictions or connections you are forgetting.
I am doing an oil change tomorrow, I will look to see what you may be missing.
Evertyhing is taken out and disconnected. From the instructions. The last step it still stuck on the hinges at the bottom i'm assuming. I can pull it up 2 inches but I can't see any further down there. I keep pulling it up and the a/c condsenser comes up with it.
*At this point I want to take my grinder out and cut the b*tch in half since its cracked anyways and i'm getting a new one put in. Go beast mode on it.
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I contacted MB CORP. already, Hadn't got a response back from those idiots who broke it. But nothing is connected at the bottom. It all comes up just stuck to the condeser. When I pull it up. Looking like some plastic piece is still connect near the bottom, but not at the very bottom. About 3 inches up I can see something connected with my flashlight.
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these might help
Normally the fluid from the transmission is from the sump to the pump and therefore is low pressure. The cooler is in many cases just a tube that runs through the bottom of the radiator. These line can be fixed with a simple piece of fluid resistant hose and a couple of hose clamps. Ford even sells the hose and clamps in a kit for about $5.00 for cars where they routed the pipe too near something and it rubs through. This is good if you catch it early enough before the tranny runs dry and is destroyed.
Good luck with the repair.
Normally the fluid from the transmission is from the sump to the pump and therefore is low pressure. The cooler is in many cases just a tube that runs through the bottom of the radiator. These line can be fixed with a simple piece of fluid resistant hose and a couple of hose clamps. Ford even sells the hose and clamps in a kit for about $5.00 for cars where they routed the pipe too near something and it rubs through. This is good if you catch it early enough before the tranny runs dry and is destroyed.
Good luck with the repair.
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these might help
Normally the fluid from the transmission is from the sump to the pump and therefore is low pressure. The cooler is in many cases just a tube that runs through the bottom of the radiator. These line can be fixed with a simple piece of fluid resistant hose and a couple of hose clamps. Ford even sells the hose and clamps in a kit for about $5.00 for cars where they routed the pipe too near something and it rubs through. This is good if you catch it early enough before the tranny runs dry and is destroyed.
Good luck with the repair.
Normally the fluid from the transmission is from the sump to the pump and therefore is low pressure. The cooler is in many cases just a tube that runs through the bottom of the radiator. These line can be fixed with a simple piece of fluid resistant hose and a couple of hose clamps. Ford even sells the hose and clamps in a kit for about $5.00 for cars where they routed the pipe too near something and it rubs through. This is good if you catch it early enough before the tranny runs dry and is destroyed.
Good luck with the repair.
I have the exact same print on. I'm on stuck STEP 9, it wont come out from the buttom hinges. It don't have exact instructions to take off the bottom hinges. From what I have read in the forum. Most people get stuck on this last step with the hinges.
Thanks bop, this will come useful to many people who needs to change out the Valeo radiator to the Behr brand.
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Like most people I still have the Valeo brand radiator in the car with the CRIMP design. This must be change out for most of you w203 owner.
You can order most Behr radiator around $200 bucks online or at your local parts store.
You can order most Behr radiator around $200 bucks online or at your local parts store.
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further on the oil lines
"Something else that’s new for Mercedes is the cooler lines
no longer have threads or banjo-type fittings. The cooler lines
are sealed with rubber O-rings on push-in type fittings, secured
with a retaining bolt."
These are low pressure lines
"Something else that’s new for Mercedes is the cooler lines
no longer have threads or banjo-type fittings. The cooler lines
are sealed with rubber O-rings on push-in type fittings, secured
with a retaining bolt."
These are low pressure lines
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Radiator bottom tab removal
Okay here are the instructions on removing the hard tabs at the bottom of the radiator that aren't on the instructions from Mercedes Star sheet.
You will need a friend or you can do it by yourself.
Took me around 10 minutes to pop both sides off! Good luck!
You will need a friend or you can do it by yourself.
Took me around 10 minutes to pop both sides off! Good luck!
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Dr. are you sure that's part of the exam? 
Well I didn't spend 5 years in Evil Medical school for nothin' !
Bend over and stop whining! LOL
Well I didn't spend 5 years in Evil Medical school for nothin' !
Bend over and stop whining! LOL
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Dudes, my c-clips kept popping out after changing my radiator. Both the transmission fluid and the water hoses.
Turns out you can bend them to make them tighter, this will fix your problem if they keep popping out.
Turns out you can bend them to make them tighter, this will fix your problem if they keep popping out.
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I know this is an old thread but I was wondering about the transmission cooler lines, do they simply push in and lock in place or is there hardware like a nut to help secure them from coming out?
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Thank you
2005 C55 AMG
Thank you
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Make sure you adjust the clips
The clips pop in the same way, just make sure you bend them back to their normal state, because they will pop out. That happened to me and it got everything wet with oil, alternator burned, and made a cloud of smoke on the freeway
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Thanks for the reply. The metal clips were installed on the radiator purchased. So simply inserted the transmission line (male end) into the radiator (female end) and heard a click. I think it's in now. Correct?
Haven't driven it since last "click in", but changed gears and no slippage anymore in trans after mover car back and forth a tad.. no leaks I can see....
No plastic piece goes over it or anything, right?
If good to go I'm on to the clean up big piggy mess phase....lol
That totally sucks yours smoked on the freeway!...
I lucky (if call it that haha) was about 6 blocks from home so I drove back very slowly and in pain (while the wife and kids took an Uber to destination!
Haven't driven it since last "click in", but changed gears and no slippage anymore in trans after mover car back and forth a tad.. no leaks I can see....
No plastic piece goes over it or anything, right?
If good to go I'm on to the clean up big piggy mess phase....lol
That totally sucks yours smoked on the freeway!...
I lucky (if call it that haha) was about 6 blocks from home so I drove back very slowly and in pain (while the wife and kids took an Uber to destination!
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Found this on another site.
Finally got the radiator removed. The condenser mount did need to be unattached so it can be raised and then push down on the radiator, then push back and lift out. Maybe this will help someone else that's contemplating removing their radiator themselves. Had I known the condenser thing It would have taken me less than an hour to remove it, probably closer to 30 minutes.
Finally got the radiator removed. The condenser mount did need to be unattached so it can be raised and then push down on the radiator, then push back and lift out. Maybe this will help someone else that's contemplating removing their radiator themselves. Had I known the condenser thing It would have taken me less than an hour to remove it, probably closer to 30 minutes.
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The radiator is actually attached to the intercooler. The condenser is sandwiched in between. You have to remove the front bumper and then the intercooler. Then you can take out the radiator
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So recently brought my car in for service at Mercedes Benz in Mobile, AL, they had damage my radiator at the transmission connection *LOW* side. I went for a transmission flush and now its leaking transmission fluid everywhere.Crack radiator, possible from the ATF machine putting out to much pressure and cracked it. I don't know exactly what type of radiator I have, Valer or Behr model. But I ordered a new one, it should be in tommorrow and I'm doing the job myself after those idiots wont fix it for me. Just want to charge me 1189 to fix it.
Got me a new radiator in shipping for 203 bucks at Carquest down the road from the stealership.
While its in shipping, I have been trying to remove the radiator. I'm on my last step. It wont come out and seems stuck. Can someone help me out here. Pictures below. I'm at the point where i push the radiator away and pull it up while I push the condenser away. But It will not come out. Everything comes up! m271 engine
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Found this on another site.
Finally got the radiator removed. The condenser mount did need to be unattached so it can be raised and then push down on the radiator, then push back and lift out. Maybe this will help someone else that's contemplating removing their radiator themselves. Had I known the condenser thing It would have taken me less than an hour to remove it, probably closer to 30 minutes.
Finally got the radiator removed. The condenser mount did need to be unattached so it can be raised and then push down on the radiator, then push back and lift out. Maybe this will help someone else that's contemplating removing their radiator themselves. Had I known the condenser thing It would have taken me less than an hour to remove it, probably closer to 30 minutes.
One Youtube video on replacing X164 radiator shows that the AC condenser needs to be removed together with the radiator, that seems a unbelievably bad design.
