nukblazi

Yes, that right, C23!

Ok, I have the '02 C230 Kompressor, and I am trying to come up with an ethical way to unequivically identify my Coupe as an '02 with the 2.3 Litre displacement motor. Beyond a tacty personalized license plate here was all I can think of. But is it stupid, like putting and ///AMG badge on a non-AMG car?

Do you think it is reasonable to simply remove the 0 in C230 from the badging C23?


Thanks all,



Thomas

Harris

Please dont do that. I would rather you debadge the whole car. Or maybe gather some fonts from various emblems and put "NOT 1.8" on the right side of the trunk????

revstriker

I agree with Harris. First, anyone that knows MBs will also know that there is no such thing as a "C23" and think that you are trying to be an AMG Poseur (sp?). For those that don't know MBs, they would not know that you are trying to identify your engine as a 2.3.

What does it matter anyway? Who cares if someone thinks you have a 1.8.

steffen

You could put a "2.3" on the side behind the front wheel where some cars have the "1.8" marked.

But then again, anything under, say 3.2 - why advertise the fact you have a small engine?

--Steffen

nukblazi

Arg... I agree with you guys... I just thought that people that "know" you realize there is no AMG badge on the car and get my point.... I don't think altering the badging of the vehicle is ethical less the case of a completely aftermarket tuned car, which is why I asked.

I guess it is going to have to be "M111" some where else, some other way.... Hmmm.... Harris just dosn't want me to do it because from a distance it'd look like "C32"

I don't want it debadged... It's a first year production model with a single year production motor... I almost feel bad doing the things I want to do to it... Like sliding it around an autocross and modding the suspension... naw... I guess don't

Maybe really tacky vinyl stickers

CRB

Speaking of badging, I saw a last-generation Accord with Acura badging this morning. Talking about pretention without ambition !!

BlackC230Coupe

When i was de-badging my c230 i started with the 0 and all i can say was C23 just looks gay to me. Somehow C32 just looks alot better.

moomeh

and to me, c55 will now look better than c32 if they ever produced again.

moomeh

honestly, just leave the car's badging the way it is. look at all my badging i have. did not at all make a difference in performance. all it did is make my car look weird.



(NOTE: if you cannot understand my humor in my sig, i'm sorry)

FrankW

I like the way you think moomeh

anywayz, it's up to you whether you want people knows what you have have some good laugh or you don't. IMO whatever the manufacturer badge the car it should remain that way because it gaves the car a sense of character, unless you want to remove it all. I can tell you that after a while I was not happy with removing my v6 kompressor badge, something is just wrong when I look at it. That's why I put it back on, now I'm happy every time I see those words.

nukblazi

Low(er) displacement is not ***** envy for crying out loud. :shakinghead Now if it was a N/A 1.6 I could understand...

While I agree with most of you, for the most part, there is a reason behind the madness. I am autocrossing my car. Now, with the SCCA and other clubs that follow it's rules or variants of their rules, the 2.3 C-Coupe and the 1.8 C-Coupe would be in different classes.

STS No longer allows forced induction.
STX Allows forced induction up to 2.0 litres
ESP Forced induction motors above 2.0 litres (which sucks for me)

Having the 2.3 on the car would help people understand why my crazy (err rather, stupid and optimistic) **** is racing with the Supra's, RX-7s, Corvette's, etc... instead of where I "should" be.

My car is the "anti-bling", I am not trying to impress anyone with it's looks or badging, I am more focused on my driving.

JeT

If you are racing in a particular class, then people are going to assume that your car is of the requisite class. Changing the badge is not going to make a difference in that respect...anyway, your reasoning doesn't make sense if you were considering changing it to C23.

But like Frank said, it is totally up to you.

nukblazi

It was a subjective question and I was asking for opinions. I don't see much of a flaw in my reasoning less the fact that there aren't any other coupes running around here anyway. I just couldn't think of anything else... don't like the idea of badging on the fenders or doors, etc... I thought that the vehicle and motor combo being unique, the "C23" wasn't a bad idea, but may cross over into false badging, even though it really is a 2.3L C-Coupe.

Oh well, it was interesting learning your opinions. Thanks for responding.

Taucher

Perhaps adding a 2.3 to the right rear might satisfy your needs ?
as in ( C230 2.3 Kompressor)

moomeh

i would laugh if i did see a c23. i would be like 'haha, the 0 fell off". i would not assume the owner did it on purpose. just the other day, i saw a bmw 325i, but the "i" was missing. i doubt that was the intent of the owner.

nukblazi

moomeh-

From the context of your sig you have a predisposed adversion to badging, so ... You have to keep things in perspective. An '02 Mercedes badges wouldn't likely be falling off. And if there isn't an ///AMG badge, and knowing that there are two motor displacements in the astectically identical C-Coupe, that someone who choose to remove the 0 leaving the C23, had the 2.3L C-Coupe, or, I guess maybe not.

Either way I am not altering the badging of the vehicle, I was just looking for ideas and I appreciate everyone's feedback. I just wish MB would stick to an honest displacement based naming convention.

The only visually altered aspects of the car will be the wheels (hopefully soon) and the ride hieght. I actually like the fact that the car looks completely stock... I just wish the wheels were lighter.

moomeh

i had my sig for two weeks now, it has nothing to do with this thread. i forgot when i wrote it, it had to do with something in the off topic forums threads.

DL_AMG

I did think about reversing my last 2 digital to C23. :P But now it's out of my system.

EH MG

C23 would indicate an AMG though wouldnt it? Like this nice black 99 ML430 that said ML43 . Along with his accessories and jet black tint it could fool ppl as a special model. I wouldn't change badging. Mabye remove it completely. Mabye replace Kompressor with SuperCharged , but that could be looked down upon. Its all personal preference!

TNblkc230wz

If I saw a C23 badge, I'd still have no clue as to what engine it had unless I could distinguish the year models. The only way I know of to do that is if it has bi-xenon lights or not. So, changing your badging will not have any impact.

If I were a novist, I wouldn't know if the C23 was a valid model or not.

Nukblazi - Isn't the 2.3 and 1.8 in the G-Stock or F-Stock? I'm assuming the C320 will be in the E-Stock, but I haven't run it yet in Solo II. If you don't mod much, you should be able to avoid the ESP designation shouldn't you?

FoShizzle

Im not looking to get flamed here, but before i even picked up my car at the dealer i had them take of the 0 of the 320 and add an ///amg logo to the right. Call it what you want, but it realy looks nice. I can actually feel more power too!
Ill post some pics of my new car in a few days keep on the lookout.

Wheens

I'll call it what it is....a lie and a sham.

Rincewind

keep it c230 :/

i'd call it C23 if you had it kleemanized or something.

nukblazi

Not sure what the C320 would be in..

By SCCA classifications;
STS no longer allows forced induction at all.
STX allow forced induction motors to 2.0 litres. So, an '03 would be here.
ESP is where I go because I have 2.3 litres. So basically, I am going to have to mod the motor to be competitive. Or go pyscho on the suspension and stick to smaller courses.

With NASA, I am classed in F with 5 points because of the SC. It is 15 pts to the next class.
With www.themclub.net I was more appropriately classed in E.
bmwcca put me in F, but their F had all the V8s, a NSX, a RX-7, Corvettes, etc... more like the SCCA classification.
All of this classing matters only a little bit so far. I am still a novice and I am not losing... so badging nor mods aren't that important. I need to work on my driving more then the car.

The badging was just a thought and I know I think badly about those who falsely badge their vehicle, I was just not sure if dropping the 0 was unethical in regards to false badging.

Autocrossing with PCA tomorrow (just for seat time), got to get to sleep. SCCA snj is having a event at the Meadowlands 7/13, we'll see how things go there.

nukblazi

kleemann brands their car the K23.

My car is a C class with a 2.3. I was thinking, C23.

And the car is special, it's mine, and it was only available for a single production year with the 2.3L motor.