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Old Jul 23, 2003 | 10:04 PM
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Which part of it is laser cut? The metal part? I think you've been watching too much "Gone in 60 seconds".
yeah, the metal part. Isn't that what they are called tho? That's what BMW calls the metal part too.

yea, I did watched "gone in 60 seconds" like 10 times.
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Old Jul 23, 2003 | 10:05 PM
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yeah, the metal part. Isn't that what they are called tho? That's what BMW calls the metal part too.
I guess they could be laser cut, but I don't see why they would have to be. They should be able to be cut the same way all other keys are.
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Old Jul 23, 2003 | 10:14 PM
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The laser cut keys are the older ones that swing out like VWs. Our are IR.

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Old Jul 23, 2003 | 10:53 PM
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Originally posted by tifosiv122
The laser cut keys are the older ones that swing out like VWs. Our are IR.

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we still have the metal key that is basically the same as those flip keys.
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Old Jul 24, 2003 | 09:35 AM
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Originally posted by FrankW
we still have the metal key that is basically the same as those flip keys.
Frank as a point, our valet keys are the same style as the older "laser cut" keys. While I'm not sure if they are actually cut with a laser (looks like a lathe to me), this is the same style.
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Old Jul 24, 2003 | 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by Matt230K
A customer at my dealer usually gets a new ML and new SL every year. For each car, he always orders two extra keys, for a total of four. But when he trades the cars back in after a year, the two extras are usually still sealed in the same bag from the parts department when he ordered them. But at least he's not losing them.
I wonder if the dealer has a special box just for his extra keys that he never picked up?
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Old Jul 24, 2003 | 10:46 AM
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THe ML key and a BMW key for that matter look very different then the Valet key for our cars. They have what is an untouched piece of metal going down the middle. While the valet keys for our cars are a standard cut key.

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Old Jul 24, 2003 | 11:37 AM
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Originally posted by Davidta
THe ML key and a BMW key for that matter look very different then the Valet key for our cars. They have what is an untouched piece of metal going down the middle. While the valet keys for our cars are a standard cut key.
I don't know about yours, but my valet key (I'm assuming you're talking about the metal key inside of the key fob) is not a standard cut key. I can't say if it's laser cut, but it looks a lot like the one in your picture.
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Old Jul 24, 2003 | 11:42 AM
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Mine does not have that verticle piece of metal along the ridges.
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Old Jul 24, 2003 | 01:50 PM
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I wonder if the dealer has a special box just for his extra keys that he never picked up?
No, he picks them up. But he never uses them. So when he trades in the car, they are still in the same bag as when he picked them up.
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Old Jul 24, 2003 | 04:01 PM
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There are 8 keys possible per car, and for whatever technical (not policy) reason, they can't recreate a previous key. I can't remember the details as to why.
According to Dave, our resident MB technician:

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There are 8 different SmartKeys available for your car, along with three duplicates of each key, for a grand total of 24 different possible keys. Once all 24 keys have been used, you will need a new Electronic Ignition Switch. I have yet to see a customer go through all 24 keys. When your car is new, it is supplied with Keys number One, Two, and Three. One and Two are the main keys, Three is the emergency "valet" key.
Of course, for the 2002+ models the car only comes with two keys.
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Old Jul 24, 2003 | 04:13 PM
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That seems like an out dated comment, possible reffering to the old keys sseing how none of us that I know of got a third emergency Valet key, the only valet keys that I know of a 203 owner getting are those that are part of their smart key and that can only be used to lock/unlock the doors trunk and glove box.
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Old Jul 24, 2003 | 04:36 PM
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Although the part about the valet key is outdated, the rest is still valid. Mercedes still uses the same ignition system, the FBS3 (Fahrberechtigungssystem 3, which means "Driver authorization system - third generation").

The old valet key was a slimmer version of the regular smart key that was also missing the metal portion. I guess MB quit using them since it was a bit of a pain in the *** to carry around such a big valet key.
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Old Jul 24, 2003 | 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by trench
The old valet key was a slimmer version of the regular smart key that was also missing the metal portion.
Actually, the valet key does have the metal key. The only thing it is missing that allows it to be thinner is the lock and unlock buttons.

They only got rid of these in 2002, so I would not say it is an outdated comment. They just got rid of an extra key that many people never use.
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Old Jul 24, 2003 | 06:46 PM
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Originally posted by Matt230K
Actually, the valet key does have the metal key. The only thing it is missing that allows it to be thinner is the lock and unlock buttons.
OK. I'd only ever seen a picture, maybe the one I saw someone pulled the metal part out. Is the valet supposed to leave the car unlocked or something? Or is it if you lock the car with the metal key the alarm isn't activiated?
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Old Jul 24, 2003 | 07:03 PM
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OK. I'd only ever seen a picture, maybe the one I saw someone pulled the metal part out. Is the valet supposed to leave the car unlocked or something? Or is it if you lock the car with the metal key the alarm isn't activiated?
If you lock it with the metal key, the alarm is not activated. But you're not supposed to give the valet the metal key anyway, because then they can get into your trunk and glove box. I think the skinny key is really for use as a wallet key or something like that. You can give a valet your smartkey without the metal key. Just lock the glove box and trunk manually with the metal key and then they can't get in.
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Old Jul 24, 2003 | 10:31 PM
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Originally posted by Davidta
THe ML key and a BMW key for that matter look very different then the Valet key for our cars. They have what is an untouched piece of metal going down the middle. While the valet keys for our cars are a standard cut key.

the metal part looks the same to me...
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Old Jul 25, 2003 | 12:03 AM
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Originally posted by tifosiv122
The laser cut keys are the older ones that swing out like VWs.

Erik
Funny, I thought that's exactly what they were. I blurt out laughing when we watched it on DVD.
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Old Jul 25, 2003 | 01:16 PM
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Originally posted by MarcGetty
Frank as a point, our valet keys are the same style as the older "laser cut" keys. While I'm not sure if they are actually cut with a laser (looks like a lathe to me), this is the same style.
True they are not laser cut but are CNC machined.
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