New 0-60 times
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New 0-60 times
Ok after some debate with coworkers, and reading the 0-60 times of the new Audi 3.0 and the disclaimer at the bottom of the page. It stated that the times 0f the new Audi were slower because the 4wd system would not allow tire spin the times would be slower and they were 0-60 was only 7.7 sec.
I decided to try some new 0-60 times and basically drop the clutch from the start and in second and third. Well they are right consistently did 6.5 sec 0-60 with a best of 6.49. I mistakenly thought that tire spin would result in slower times so I tried to get the best start with out tire spin and assumed that would be the best time. WRONG !
I decided to try some new 0-60 times and basically drop the clutch from the start and in second and third. Well they are right consistently did 6.5 sec 0-60 with a best of 6.49. I mistakenly thought that tire spin would result in slower times so I tried to get the best start with out tire spin and assumed that would be the best time. WRONG !
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Originally posted by Lynn
Randy, are you launching in second gear? If so, would the 3.46 diff be a better choice than the 3.69 for street use?
Randy, are you launching in second gear? If so, would the 3.46 diff be a better choice than the 3.69 for street use?
I was useing first, the times in second are slower even with one less shift., but they are still faster than the stock 7.2. I'm shifting while the tires are still spinning in first to second. That makes a very short first gear. I did reserch the diff it is a 3.67 not a 3.69 I had posted before.
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Side step it??? Just to clarify terminology, do you mean that when you launched you "walked", or didn't, (sorry, using my own terminology now) the rear end from side to side thus loosing traction? Gee, with that rear end, is walking an issue at a 2000 RPM dump launch? Maybe you're referring to a "heel - toe" launch maneuver?
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You should also be smoking the tires on the first three gears. Did u ever drag race as a teen renncpe? The coupe actually has some really nice take off's and if you're not careful the rear end will start to drift. Shifting very fast is key if you do it just right and take each gear to redline by the time you shift the engine seems to be at just the right rpm for the next gear. A good test is being able to smoke the tires on each shift. I can do the first three gears on the coupe easily.
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Originally posted by Bos
Side step it??? Maybe you're referring to a "heel - toe" launch maneuver?
Side step it??? Maybe you're referring to a "heel - toe" launch maneuver?
Just letting the cluch slip off the side of your foot, I guess that is the same as dumping it. I did not do that I engauged it much faster that normal but did not dump the cluch yet.
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I did not drag race in the teens I grow up in Italy, "army brat" we could not even drive untill 18. After that I did not have a chance to drag race so this new to me. I power falls off alittle around the red line so I'm shifting about 5800 rpm. I will find out Wednesday on times in the 1/8 we don't have a 1/4 track in Jacksonville.
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Are you turnning off the ESP by the dash switch or by the display setting? ESP is nice but it seems to kick in every time I start to have some fun! It really slows the 0-60 times down when it clamps even the slightest tire spin causing a long pause in acceleration. It also kicks in if I go over a hump followed by a slight dip when I'm hard on the throttle. This can drive an experienced driver nuts!
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this is a little off the topic but i have an auto c coupe and when i take shut the esp from the dash switch and i floor the car from a stop why dont my tires spin or should i say screech? it dosent do anything it just goes. is there anyway i can make my auto do that cuase even if u see a crappy a** accord floor it from a stop it still screches the tires even if its an auto. or does this have anything to do with the car being RWD. and also maybe i cam ****ting my esp off wrong do u need to turn it off at a stop or on park?????? because i just shut it as i am driving.
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yes, you can - it's called brake-torqueing (sp): you hold your *left* foot on the brake, rev the engine up to ~2000 rpm (give or take - you'll figure out), and then drop the brake and stomp on the gas simultaneously. The car will jump like a bat out of hell. Don't forget to switch the ESP off, though.
One of the reasons your coupe doesn't spin tires off the line is the Z-rated/wide/low-profile tires - extremely sticky compared to what that guy's Honda had (most likely).
One of the reasons your coupe doesn't spin tires off the line is the Z-rated/wide/low-profile tires - extremely sticky compared to what that guy's Honda had (most likely).
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So as the car is in drive at a stop i just hold my foot on the brake and rev the engine as my foot is on the brake and then i let go of the brake when my foot is on the gas or not?
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The idea is to rev the engine up while the car is held still by the brakes in order to launch at higher than normal RPM. This can be achieved by using the left foot, as your right foot will be doing the revving. The moment you take the left foot off the brake, floor the gas pedal.
Just want to add - this puts some serious stress on the drivetrain so use it at your own risk.
Just want to add - this puts some serious stress on the drivetrain so use it at your own risk.
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A steering wheel mounted ESP switch would be really nice! On hand for that special occassion that calls for max zip! Like teaching that BWM a lesson that he well deservers....
A steering wheel mounted ESP switch would be really nice! On hand for that special occassion that calls for max zip! Like teaching that BWM a lesson that he well deservers....
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In an auto, just put your left foot on the brake and right on the gas. Hold the brake and 'load' you torque converter by revving the engine to about 2000rpm for a second or two. Then, as you quickly release the brake, take the gas pedal to the floor without easing up on it. It takes a while to get use to the left foot on brake deal and not easing up on the gas part but its worth it. Remember to take the ESP off (dash switch), you can do it moving or stopped, any time before you test run. Have fun..
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In reference to tire-spin, I agree with the new test on the A4 3.0 6-speed hitting 0-60 in 7.7 sec. It also very much feels that way when driving it. The car just sounds/feels very powerful but no matter what you do, the launch is not breathtaking at all, it feels very much a 7.7 to 8.0 sec. 0-60 times car. Mine is a six speed and the best I've gotten was 7.5. It handles out of this world though but yeah if my wheels could spin easily I would break into the 6 range without a prob. As it is right now my auto. C-Coupe keeps up with the Quattro 3.0 without pushing it too hard.
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Renn, just to clarify....you have a 3.69 rear-end and the Renntech pulley set up and those are your only mods? Also, did you get good traction, or was there a lot of wheel spin off the line?
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Originally posted by chuckd94
Renn, just to clarify....you have a 3.69 rear-end and the Renntech pulley set up and those are your only mods? Also, did you get good traction, or was there a lot of wheel spin off the line?
Renn, just to clarify....you have a 3.69 rear-end and the Renntech pulley set up and those are your only mods? Also, did you get good traction, or was there a lot of wheel spin off the line?
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