Auto mag says AMG coupe is coming!
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Auto mag says AMG coupe is coming!
No details unfortunatley, but the new Automobile has a Merc new model timeline and believe it or not, they claim the AMG coupe will be built in the 2003 model year- soon I guess. 
I might have waited if I knew then what I know now. But, still no word on pricing or performance changes so for now its still just something to drool over in my dreams. Thought ya'll might like to know, before you start modding your coupes- in case you want to trade up to the AMG soon!
Mine will be bone stock, low miles and clean as a whistle cause I figure I won't be able to resist, but we'll see.
I might have waited if I knew then what I know now. But, still no word on pricing or performance changes so for now its still just something to drool over in my dreams. Thought ya'll might like to know, before you start modding your coupes- in case you want to trade up to the AMG soon! Mine will be bone stock, low miles and clean as a whistle cause I figure I won't be able to resist, but we'll see.
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Zimmer, have you figured how much of a bath you'd take on trading up? I would bet that if you add up the depreciation on the '02 as well as the incremental cost of the upgrade to the AMG '03, you'd have a nice hunk of change that would go a long way to making your own quasi-AMG out of the '02.
I wonder what will be in the '03 AMG, though. I'll be interesting to see how the new model year's ccoupes pan out.
I wonder what will be in the '03 AMG, though. I'll be interesting to see how the new model year's ccoupes pan out.
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Yeah, that's the downside. But I'm one of those who would prefer to keep his car mostly stock even aside from jeopardizing the warranty. I got my shower cap on. If its that much, then I'll consider plan B, but my sights have been set.
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i'm assuming no price info yet (but i'd hazard a $40k guess)...
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...&threadid=4961
Pffelan says it may cost £35-39k... my rule of thumb for car cost conversion from £ to US$ is 1 to 1.
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...&threadid=4961
Pffelan says it may cost £35-39k... my rule of thumb for car cost conversion from £ to US$ is 1 to 1.
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A 60% premium over the base model? That would definitely be a hazard for MB, and find it unlikely to be that high- but who knows. It will be interesting to see nonetheless.
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If its under 40K i will get it with the settlement money i get. If its over 40K, I will have a nice "quasi-AMG" from Renntech, Evosport,Kleemen etc. If they really do make it do you think they will stay with the gameplan and make it an auto or maybe, just maybe a stick. My guess for an engine would maybe be a "de-tuned" C32 or a 2.8 litre kompressor engine. The 230 kompressor is a great engine but it lacks that low end power of a V6.
V6 + Kompressor =
V6 + Kompressor =
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They will not price is so close to the C32 AMG, that is guaranteed. Considering all of the other classes and how much of a premium their respected AMG models cost, expect the car to cost a little more than $40k. All things considered, I think this is a very fair estimate. Also, don't expect them to drop the 3.2L Kompressor in it either.
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You guys are really killing me here....
My build date of my on-order car is literally today, so I am 30-40 days out from its ultimate arrival. I am really sensing something is coming, I just wish someone could pinpoint exactly what that is before I bite the bullet and buy what I ordered - a car that is stickering at over $34000 before taxes, tags etc...
I want to enjoy a car now, but if I end up kicking myself for not waiting another 6 months, my wife will undoubtedly kick me harder!
My build date of my on-order car is literally today, so I am 30-40 days out from its ultimate arrival. I am really sensing something is coming, I just wish someone could pinpoint exactly what that is before I bite the bullet and buy what I ordered - a car that is stickering at over $34000 before taxes, tags etc...
I want to enjoy a car now, but if I end up kicking myself for not waiting another 6 months, my wife will undoubtedly kick me harder!
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Flashman, I saw the recent pics of your car...best looking Magma I've ever seen. Absolutely beautiful. Now, back to the topic...someone find me some hard facts on an AMG coupe in the US with more than cosmetic changes!!!
My staggered AMGs shall continue to stay in waiting...
My staggered AMGs shall continue to stay in waiting...
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It seems unlikely that there would be a full blown AMG version of the C230. If you look across the MB line there really is only one such car in each class, i.e.-- C32,SLK32,CLK55,E55,S55 etc... Yes, there are versions where one can have some AMG ground effects e.g. the CLK430 but, no car that is on par in terms of performance. Why would MB undercut it's C-Class AMG by offering the less expensive Coupe AMG?
Brill. Silver C230K 02'-- Auto,CD,C4,C5,C7 -- On order:p
Brill. Silver C230K 02'-- Auto,CD,C4,C5,C7 -- On order:p
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You know, I didn't think of the manual versus automatic dilemma. It would need to be a manual for me to truly be happy, but I guess I am willing to wait and see.
I can just see the explanation to my wife now... "I know I said this was the last new car for a few years, but 349 dancing ponies is a safety issue and we can't have the baby riding around in an unsafe, 192hp vehicle!"
I can just see the explanation to my wife now... "I know I said this was the last new car for a few years, but 349 dancing ponies is a safety issue and we can't have the baby riding around in an unsafe, 192hp vehicle!"
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Originally posted by Odont
It seems unlikely that there would be a full blown AMG version of the C230. If you look across the MB line there really is only one such car in each class, i.e.-- C32,SLK32,CLK55,E55,S55 etc... Yes, there are versions where one can have some AMG ground effects e.g. the CLK430 but, no car that is on par in terms of performance. Why would MB undercut it's C-Class AMG by offering the less expensive Coupe AMG?
It seems unlikely that there would be a full blown AMG version of the C230. If you look across the MB line there really is only one such car in each class, i.e.-- C32,SLK32,CLK55,E55,S55 etc... Yes, there are versions where one can have some AMG ground effects e.g. the CLK430 but, no car that is on par in terms of performance. Why would MB undercut it's C-Class AMG by offering the less expensive Coupe AMG?
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Good point Trench- and you may be right about that. I just can't see people spending upwards of 40k for a suped up hatchback. I'd like to see the smaller of the 6's (2.6 i think) blown to about 240hp and the price kept under 35. I may be dreaming but I think MB is dreaming if they think they can sell a 49k hatchback because the can't and they won't (for long anyway.)
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Yeah! Put a AMg body kit on it, some special wheels and a small blown V6 for 34K-38K and i'll buy one. Don't care too much about the transmission although senquintial like they have in europe would be nice. it it will be around 240-275hp it will sell great i think. Provided that its not $40K
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C230k's are still quite a rare beast over here(especially with EVO AMG Panorama styling...like mine on order )so,If the AMG for 2003(or earlier) turns out to be a SUPER beast,I'll get a buyer(who can't be bothered with a four month list),or come to that my dealer who has nearly new/used cars at almost new prices to take mine.........and then my wait will start all over again....I dont think I would want a first run model though(let any teething problems get sorted first)....how about we all just wait and see if MBZ price this thing sensibly first????
)so,If the AMG for 2003(or earlier) turns out to be a SUPER beast,I'll get a buyer(who can't be bothered with a four month list),or come to that my dealer who has nearly new/used cars at almost new prices to take mine.........and then my wait will start all over again....I dont think I would want a first run model though(let any teething problems get sorted first)....how about we all just wait and see if MBZ price this thing sensibly first????
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A lot of good ideas are flowing here, keep them coming.
My gut says that if this is true it will be in lines with what the Sport package is on my 2001 ML320 - it looks like the ML55, with the same bodywork, sans the buldged hood, has the AMG exhaust tip and bumper cutout, has bigger "Evolution" wheels, but no drivetrain changes. I have the look, I don't have the grunt.
US C7 = Evolution package everywhere else
Possible US C7+AMG Sport = AMG Evolution package everywhere else
I am pretty much already there with the AMG 203s I have waiting. The body changes are slightly revised bumpers and maybe a deeper side sill. Slightly lowered suspension and spring rates, too.
If, and I think this is probably a big if, the AMG pacage will include a drivetrain change, my interest is there. No doubt about it. I'd love to see a C26 or C32 Coupe, but the chances of that here, where we don't get the C32 wagon as an example, are slim. Many of the dealers I have visited this year report diminishing AMG product sales. Granted, the economy has been a bit rougher in the last 18 months, but soft sales would not contribute to more models forthcoming in my mind.
Anyone have access to the european mags with pictures of the C32 coupe?
My gut says that if this is true it will be in lines with what the Sport package is on my 2001 ML320 - it looks like the ML55, with the same bodywork, sans the buldged hood, has the AMG exhaust tip and bumper cutout, has bigger "Evolution" wheels, but no drivetrain changes. I have the look, I don't have the grunt.
US C7 = Evolution package everywhere else
Possible US C7+AMG Sport = AMG Evolution package everywhere else
I am pretty much already there with the AMG 203s I have waiting. The body changes are slightly revised bumpers and maybe a deeper side sill. Slightly lowered suspension and spring rates, too.
If, and I think this is probably a big if, the AMG pacage will include a drivetrain change, my interest is there. No doubt about it. I'd love to see a C26 or C32 Coupe, but the chances of that here, where we don't get the C32 wagon as an example, are slim. Many of the dealers I have visited this year report diminishing AMG product sales. Granted, the economy has been a bit rougher in the last 18 months, but soft sales would not contribute to more models forthcoming in my mind.
Anyone have access to the european mags with pictures of the C32 coupe?
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Something else has just occured to me as well. On one of the other MB forums there was a post from someone who had visited the AMG shop/factory in Germany. There was a single C32 coupe there, which apparantly was a custom job (not sure if it was a design study for MB or a customer) and not an offical product. I wonder if the sighting of this car, along with a possible MB decision to release the AMG Evolution package (which I think is more likely than a coupe with driveline changes) is causing the confusion.
I'll agree with Robert, even if they do release a full-blown AMG coupe I bet it (like the wagon) doesn't make it to the US.
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I'll agree with Robert, even if they do release a full-blown AMG coupe I bet it (like the wagon) doesn't make it to the US.
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I think the european market will get a drivetrain-changed AMG Coupe. I've seen the pics of the silver and the red coupes thus far, so for the US, we may get appearance changes and that will be it.
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For those on the fence with current orders, remember that the current sedan C32 AMG is limited production in the US (only 1,000 units or so) and that folks are waiting 4-6 months for one. IF the Coupe sprouts an AMG variant, and IF it was decided to send some stateside, I would think you could expect similarly low numbers, at an equally slow dribble to the dealers. And you thought 3-4 months to wait for a Coupe was long.
Soooo, if you were to cancel your 2.3L Coupe order today, you may not see your AMG variant until the end of the 2003 run. That's a long wait.
Let's not even talk about price gouging for the first 30% of the run.
Soooo, if you were to cancel your 2.3L Coupe order today, you may not see your AMG variant until the end of the 2003 run. That's a long wait.
Let's not even talk about price gouging for the first 30% of the run.
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