w209 cluster in w203
08-11-2006, 03:51 AM
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some slow@$$diesels
Originally Posted by Floobydust
(my apologies in advance to W203 wagon owners)
greetingz,
08-11-2006, 08:57 AM
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2002 C320 (full AMG styling) - Brilliant Silver / Ash Leather (Orion Grey)
Originally Posted by MBenzNL
...no need to apologice...I fet the same about that cluster...I stil bought the 203 wagon though...and installed a 209 CLK cluster
greetingz,
greetingz,
Is it plug & play?
What happens to the original mileage on the car, does it need updating via Star?
Thanks!!!
08-11-2006, 08:59 AM
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Nothing MB related (sorry)
Originally Posted by C320 UK
What is involved in installing the 209 Cluster?
Is it plug & play?
What happens to the original mileage on the car, does it need updating via Star?
Thanks!!!
Is it plug & play?
What happens to the original mileage on the car, does it need updating via Star?
Thanks!!!
It is DEFINITELY NOT plug and play!!
The mileage (and all other relevant info) needs to be updated through Star when getting a different cluster.
greetingz,
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08-11-2006, 02:05 PM
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One with 4 wheels
Originally Posted by Floobydust
Here is the strange tech question of the day. Does anyone know if you can swap the instrument cluster from the later C-class sedans (the nice looking one with speedo with tach) with the clunky one from the C-class wagon? The wagon would make a nice car for family outings for me except that the instrument cluster makes a Yugo look positively luxurious! I can't remember the last time I saw something that ugly looking (my apologies in advance to W203 wagon owners); it's enough to scuttle the car for me.
08-11-2006, 06:32 PM
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Thank you everyone for your replies. It looks like swapping the cluster is going to be a cluster. I could certainly handle the electronic and mechanical aspects of the job (I've designed, built, and programmed entire digital engine management systems for some of my previous cars). The issue for me is the proprietary Star Diagnose system that is needed to re-adjust settings. Getting access to one and someone willing to make the changes without giving up your first born will be difficult here. The reason I was asking it that I was hoping to get a C320S4 which as far as I know was not available in 2005 with the better instrument cluster.
I have attached a picture of the old style instrument cluster for TA-9FF.
- FD
I have attached a picture of the old style instrument cluster for TA-9FF.
- FD
08-12-2006, 08:31 AM
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Black W203
I swap the cluster and found some problems
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w203/87849-new-w203-interior.html
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w203/87849-new-w203-interior.html
08-14-2006, 09:24 AM
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2002 C320 (full AMG styling) - Brilliant Silver / Ash Leather (Orion Grey)
Originally Posted by BigSis
What's involved... lots of patience, and a knowledgeable person to do the conversion.
It is DEFINITELY NOT plug and play!!
The mileage (and all other relevant info) needs to be updated through Star when getting a different cluster.
greetingz,
BigSis
It is DEFINITELY NOT plug and play!!
The mileage (and all other relevant info) needs to be updated through Star when getting a different cluster.
greetingz,
BigSis
Didn't think it would be, never mind. Perhaps we will have to think of someother mods! Perhaps a C32 180 mph cluster???
02-11-2007, 07:59 AM
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Replacing Instrument cluster?
Will an instrument cluster from a 2005 and after C230 fit into the cluster for a 2004 C230? Any modifications needed, or will it just plug into the same connections. I like the 2005-2007 cluster better. Thanks.
02-11-2007, 04:22 PM
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Midnight Blue 2004.5 C230 Kompressor Sport Sedan. 2002 w210 E320, 2009 w211 E350 Sport
Unless you want to spend thousands of dollars replacing lot of internals, save everybody the time of responding and search for threads started by Sunman.
Please use the search. This topic has been discussed before. Locking thread.
Please use the search. This topic has been discussed before. Locking thread.
03-05-2007, 02:40 PM
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What are the differences b/w W209 & W203?
'The Mercedes-Benz W209 cars have been produced since 2002. They are sold under the CLK-Class model names. The W209 is based on the W203 C-Class.'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W209
Besides from the differences in face-mask, 2-door, and the fact that CLK has convertible top. What are the other exterior differences b/w W209 & W203? Wider? Longer?
CLK Dimensions:
Wheelbase 106.9 in
Overall length 183.2 in
Overall height 55.4 in
Overall width 68.5 in
http://www.mbusa.com/models/features...C&class=07_CLK
C-Class Dimensions:
Wheelbase 106.9 in
Overall length 178.4 in
Overall height 55.6 in
Overall width 68.0 in
http://www.mbusa.com/models/features...0WZ&class=07_C
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W209
Besides from the differences in face-mask, 2-door, and the fact that CLK has convertible top. What are the other exterior differences b/w W209 & W203? Wider? Longer?
CLK Dimensions:
Wheelbase 106.9 in
Overall length 183.2 in
Overall height 55.4 in
Overall width 68.5 in
http://www.mbusa.com/models/features...C&class=07_CLK
C-Class Dimensions:
Wheelbase 106.9 in
Overall length 178.4 in
Overall height 55.6 in
Overall width 68.0 in
http://www.mbusa.com/models/features...0WZ&class=07_C
03-05-2007, 03:03 PM
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C55 AMG, 135i, 911 GT3, GLE43 AMG
1) W209 CLK is strictly a 2 door coupe or cabrio. The W203 C-class is a 4 door sedan, 4 door wagon, or 2 door sports coupe which is completely different in its shape compared to the CLK.
2) W209 interior instrument cluster comes from the W211 E-class. The CLK also has circular air vents, as opposed to rectangular air vent in the W203 C-class. In fact, the entire interior design of the CLK is different from the C-class, except that they share the same centre radio/climate control stack.
3) There are options which are only available on the CLK, like keyless go.
4) For the W209 CLK, there has been/continues to be an option for a non-AMG V8 version (CLK500, CLK550), which are NOT available on the W203 C-class.
5) The W203 C-class had 2 AMG versions in North America: C32 AMG and C55 AMG. The W209 CLK-class also had 2 versions in North America: CLK55 AMG and CLK63 AMG (only in cabrio form).
2) W209 interior instrument cluster comes from the W211 E-class. The CLK also has circular air vents, as opposed to rectangular air vent in the W203 C-class. In fact, the entire interior design of the CLK is different from the C-class, except that they share the same centre radio/climate control stack.
3) There are options which are only available on the CLK, like keyless go.
4) For the W209 CLK, there has been/continues to be an option for a non-AMG V8 version (CLK500, CLK550), which are NOT available on the W203 C-class.
5) The W203 C-class had 2 AMG versions in North America: C32 AMG and C55 AMG. The W209 CLK-class also had 2 versions in North America: CLK55 AMG and CLK63 AMG (only in cabrio form).
03-05-2007, 04:28 PM
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C class is made by MB in an MB factory by MB employees. The CLK is made by Karmann. Since MB makes such unreliable cars (actually slid 4 notches from bad to worse in Consumer Reports survey), I would think the CLK is better since it's not made by MB.
03-05-2007, 04:59 PM
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1) W209 CLK is strictly a 2 door coupe or cabrio. The W203 C-class is a 4 door sedan, 4 door wagon, or 2 door sports coupe which is completely different in its shape compared to the CLK.
2) W209 interior instrument cluster comes from the W211 E-class. The CLK also has circular air vents, as opposed to rectangular air vent in the W203 C-class. In fact, the entire interior design of the CLK is different from the C-class, except that they share the same centre radio/climate control stack.
3) There are options which are only available on the CLK, like keyless go.
4) For the W209 CLK, there has been/continues to be an option for a non-AMG V8 version (CLK500, CLK550), which are NOT available on the W203 C-class.
5) The W203 C-class had 2 AMG versions in North America: C32 AMG and C55 AMG. The W209 CLK-class also had 2 versions in North America: CLK55 AMG and CLK63 AMG (only in cabrio form).
2) W209 interior instrument cluster comes from the W211 E-class. The CLK also has circular air vents, as opposed to rectangular air vent in the W203 C-class. In fact, the entire interior design of the CLK is different from the C-class, except that they share the same centre radio/climate control stack.
3) There are options which are only available on the CLK, like keyless go.
4) For the W209 CLK, there has been/continues to be an option for a non-AMG V8 version (CLK500, CLK550), which are NOT available on the W203 C-class.
5) The W203 C-class had 2 AMG versions in North America: C32 AMG and C55 AMG. The W209 CLK-class also had 2 versions in North America: CLK55 AMG and CLK63 AMG (only in cabrio form).
Oh and like $16,000.
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03-06-2007, 12:03 AM
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Many thanks guys!! So I guess there isn't that much of a difference from the exterior, the higher price tag of a CLK goes in the interior.
PC Valkyrie: Thanks for the detailed reply!!
PC Valkyrie: Thanks for the detailed reply!!
03-06-2007, 05:13 AM
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03-06-2007, 10:37 AM
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03-06-2007, 05:55 PM
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Waiting for W204 Facelift
I learned this info now and I am shocked and go to Karmann website , it is true.
short info from Karmann;
''The Mercedes-Benz CLK convertible, the Audi A4 convertible, the Chrysler Crossfire coupe and roadster, the roof systems for the Renault Mégane convertible and the Volkswagen New Beetle convertible: These are some examples of our current production reference list......
I can not understand Why this car models produce by orginal maker .
http://www.karmann.com/__C1256DF7005...1004008f8.html
