Anyone seen these lights?
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Anyone seen these lights?
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Jim,
Don't know if yours is any better that the link below, but it might be an alternative...
http://www.led.net/datasheets/auto_index/auto_index.htm
Don't know if yours is any better that the link below, but it might be an alternative...
http://www.led.net/datasheets/auto_index/auto_index.htm
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Jlm003, the thing is the one's I posted are about 3x cheaper than the ones at Ledtronics. I believe neither comes with a warranty.
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Originally posted by Rick
wait...why are you asking about TOYOTA mods in a MERCEDES forum???
wait...why are you asking about TOYOTA mods in a MERCEDES forum???
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True 
I know you guys have a lot of experience modding your rides. BUT, this isn't a Toyota-only mod, otherwise I wouldn't post it
Jim
I know you guys have a lot of experience modding your rides. BUT, this isn't a Toyota-only mod, otherwise I wouldn't post it
Jim
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The only "problem" I've found is that the leather on the top of of the second row seats has a wrinkle in it. I'll try to pull it out myself. I haven't had a chance to check MPG yet since my wife drives it most of the time and does the fuel fill ups. Everything seems to fit together and works as it should! Oh yeah, I think I have heard some distortion on the front left speaker on occasion, but it isn't repeatable.
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Originally posted by Jim Banville
Jlm003, the thing is the one's I posted are about 3x cheaper than the ones at Ledtronics. I believe neither comes with a warranty.
Jlm003, the thing is the one's I posted are about 3x cheaper than the ones at Ledtronics. I believe neither comes with a warranty.
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Originally posted by vadim
You don't need a warranty for LEDs - they never burn out.
You don't need a warranty for LEDs - they never burn out.
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Originally posted by Jim Banville
I have read at least one post where someone said the LED bulbs they bought died within a short time period. The LED's themselves may not burn out, but I'm concerned about the quality of the other parts and their construction. I've also heard that not all LED's are of equal quality. I'm curious if Ledtronics LED lights are $36/each because they are better than the $13 ones, or are they just overpriced?
I have read at least one post where someone said the LED bulbs they bought died within a short time period. The LED's themselves may not burn out, but I'm concerned about the quality of the other parts and their construction. I've also heard that not all LED's are of equal quality. I'm curious if Ledtronics LED lights are $36/each because they are better than the $13 ones, or are they just overpriced?
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I've seen someone used it on his 3-series. It doesn't work very well. Very unsafe when you are on the side of the car because you can't tell if the turn signal is on or not.
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FrankW, are you POSITIVE that he is using these wide angle LED's rather than the more commonly available narrow angle LED's? Seeing as how the 'directionality' of LED's is such a complaint, I wonder why someone doesn't make a light with a couple rows of outward facing LED's, and fewer rearward facing ones, like this crude picture?
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Even easier would be a small round piece of plastic that is convex in shape and has a translucent mirror finish like that on mirrored sunglasses. A couple of tiny platic arms would hold it about 1/2" from the face of glowing LED's, with the convex mirror facing the LED's. The round mirrored surface would redirect the light to various parts of the reflector, while you would still get some direct rearward light from the rearfacing LED's since the finish on the plastic is translucent. In other words, it's like holding up a lens from a pair of mirrored sunglasses up to the beam of a flashlight. Some of the light striking the mirrored finsih is going to get redirected back toward the flashlight at various angles, while some of the light will still pass right through the lens. Seems like it would only cost a few cents to make. Such as if you apply a finish to the clear cup shaped plastic that holds plastic toy jewelry, etc. in those coin operated "bubble gum" machines. Can you get a translucent mirror finish "paint" in a spraycan? How about misting the plastic "cup" with a metallic paint like some people do to amber bubs when they put them behind clear lens's so you don't want see the amber color, yet the bulb still glows amber when it's on?
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Originally posted by vadim
You don't need a warranty for LEDs - they never burn out.
You don't need a warranty for LEDs - they never burn out.
One of my city light LED bulbs burned out. There are 4 on the circuit board, and one went south...after that the rest just flickered.
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Originally posted by Outland
BULL****.
One of my city light LED bulbs burned out. There are 4 on the circuit board, and one went south...after that the rest just flickered.
BULL****.
One of my city light LED bulbs burned out. There are 4 on the circuit board, and one went south...after that the rest just flickered.
An LED is a solid-state semiconductor device with absolutely nothing to burn out or suffer from vibration inside it - unlike incandescent bulbs or even HID. The only way to destroy an LED is to apply voltage much higher than what it is designed to operate at -or- to create improper conditions for heat dissipation so it gets overheated and suffers a thermal damage which is irreversible.
Flickering most likely means poor soldering.
Somehow I am not surprised that LED-based lighting devices go bad - like everwhere else, there are scores of cheap makeshift companies rushing into this "hot" market - hence, the result.
I guess Jim's remark about the necessity of a warranty on these things really makes sense...
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Originally posted by vadim
If you knew the principle of operation of LED, you'd look for the reason of your disaster elsewhere.
Flickering most likely means poor soldering.
If you knew the principle of operation of LED, you'd look for the reason of your disaster elsewhere.
Flickering most likely means poor soldering.
Ive seen em crack, Ive seen ones that the leads break off of....there's more to 'burning out' than internal failure. Even still, solid state components also have a finite lifetime...not to mention manufacturing flaws.
Its a wedge replacement bulb. It has 4 LED's. One will not light at all. The other three flicker.
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Originally posted by Outland
I understand how they work just fine thank you. But nothing is impervious to failure.
Ive seen em crack, Ive seen ones that the leads break off of....there's more to 'burning out' than internal failure. Even still, solid state components also have a finite lifetime...not to mention manufacturing flaws.
Its a wedge replacement bulb. It has 4 LED's. One will not light at all. The other three flicker.
I understand how they work just fine thank you. But nothing is impervious to failure.
Ive seen em crack, Ive seen ones that the leads break off of....there's more to 'burning out' than internal failure. Even still, solid state components also have a finite lifetime...not to mention manufacturing flaws.
Its a wedge replacement bulb. It has 4 LED's. One will not light at all. The other three flicker.
The bottom line is: if you have a working LED and put it in nominal conditions - it will NOT burn out.
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Originally posted by Jim Banville
FrankW, are you POSITIVE that he is using these wide angle LED's rather than the more commonly available narrow angle LED's? Seeing as how the 'directionality' of LED's is such a complaint, I wonder why someone doesn't make a light with a couple rows of outward facing LED's, and fewer rearward facing ones, like this crude picture?
Jim
FrankW, are you POSITIVE that he is using these wide angle LED's rather than the more commonly available narrow angle LED's? Seeing as how the 'directionality' of LED's is such a complaint, I wonder why someone doesn't make a light with a couple rows of outward facing LED's, and fewer rearward facing ones, like this crude picture?
Jim
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WHY??
The S-class has LED tail light, the SL has LED tail light, the BMW 3-series now has tail light consist entire of LEDs, the 7-series also has LED tail light, and the facelifted C-class will soon have LED tail light.
The S-class has LED tail light, the SL has LED tail light, the BMW 3-series now has tail light consist entire of LEDs, the 7-series also has LED tail light, and the facelifted C-class will soon have LED tail light.
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Originally posted by Rick
IT STILL SOUNDS LIKE A TOYOTA PART - NOT SOMETHING A PERSON WOULD USE ON A MERCEDES! RICE!!!!
IT STILL SOUNDS LIKE A TOYOTA PART - NOT SOMETHING A PERSON WOULD USE ON A MERCEDES! RICE!!!!
Have I made any deragatory remarks about MB's or their owners?
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Originally posted by Rick
IT STILL SOUNDS LIKE A TOYOTA PART - NOT SOMETHING A PERSON WOULD USE ON A MERCEDES! RICE!!!!
IT STILL SOUNDS LIKE A TOYOTA PART - NOT SOMETHING A PERSON WOULD USE ON A MERCEDES! RICE!!!!
