2005 c180 kompressor balance shaft
10-10-2018, 07:33 AM
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2005 c180 kompressor
2005 c180 kompressor balance shaft
Hi guys, wondering if someone could give me some advise on this please:
I have a 2005 c180 kompressor, Im in the process of replaceing the head gasket but my bottom banlancer shaft chain has snapped. The problem i have is trying to time the balancer shaft back up as the grove is not horizontal as it should be.
I cant seem to turn the balancer shaft back to the correct timing position? any help would be much appreciated
Thanks in advance
I have a 2005 c180 kompressor, Im in the process of replaceing the head gasket but my bottom banlancer shaft chain has snapped. The problem i have is trying to time the balancer shaft back up as the grove is not horizontal as it should be.
I cant seem to turn the balancer shaft back to the correct timing position? any help would be much appreciated
Thanks in advance
10-11-2018, 06:18 PM
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I never heard of a straight 4 with a balance shaft.
Is something being lost in the translation?
Is something being lost in the translation?
10-11-2018, 09:48 PM
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Where in the ******* world do you live? Yes, it makes a difference!
Update your profile!
Fwiw, I neither have the time nor desire to play 20 questions.
"The car won't run."
WOW!! I LOVE ALL OF THAT DETAIL!!!
Yes, the M71 has two balance shafts.
As for why some 4-cylinders have balance shafts:
https://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/th...layType=nested
Timing chains for the M271
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...e-apart-4.html
http://ww2.justanswer.com/uploads/eu...r_balancer.pdf
Btw, my Olds Achieva won't run. Please tell me, in detail, exactly what the problem is and how to fix it.
Spoiler: I have the battery disconnected.
Fwiw, the following is more worthless in relevant information than my asking about my Achieva.
Off hand, I say that your M271 is another boat anchor.
Hey, at least the M271 engines are helping in keeping the cost of boast anchors down.
Update your profile!
Fwiw, I neither have the time nor desire to play 20 questions.
"The car won't run."
WOW!! I LOVE ALL OF THAT DETAIL!!!
Yes, the M71 has two balance shafts.
As for why some 4-cylinders have balance shafts:
https://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/th...layType=nested
Timing chains for the M271
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...e-apart-4.html
http://ww2.justanswer.com/uploads/eu...r_balancer.pdf
Btw, my Olds Achieva won't run. Please tell me, in detail, exactly what the problem is and how to fix it.
Spoiler: I have the battery disconnected.
Fwiw, the following is more worthless in relevant information than my asking about my Achieva.
The problem i have is trying to time the balancer shaft back up as the grove is not horizontal as it should be.
I cant seem to turn the balancer shaft back to the correct timing position?
I cant seem to turn the balancer shaft back to the correct timing position?
Hey, at least the M271 engines are helping in keeping the cost of boast anchors down.
Last edited by RedGray; 10-11-2018 at 09:51 PM.
10-12-2018, 03:04 PM
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Oh gawd 2 Chains?! I never knew that. As if one single row chain that stretches, eats gears,
jumps teeth, and destroys engines wasn't bad enough. My M111 is still chugging along at 245K miles.
Though at some point it will die....been putting coolant in for years for leaking head gasket...
But I can get an engine at Picknpull for $150 at some point vs, paying $2500 locally for a head gasket.
jumps teeth, and destroys engines wasn't bad enough. My M111 is still chugging along at 245K miles.
Though at some point it will die....been putting coolant in for years for leaking head gasket...
But I can get an engine at Picknpull for $150 at some point vs, paying $2500 locally for a head gasket.
Last edited by C230 Sport Coup; 10-12-2018 at 03:10 PM.
10-12-2018, 06:44 PM
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Iirc, on the bottom of the M271, one cam connects to the balance shaft, and the other to the oil pump??
But, I'm not sure. Nor, do I really care.
The main issue with the M271 engine in general is the MEGA POS single-row timing chain. MB DOES have a design with a double-row timing chain. That's the image they have on their Service DVD. But, for cost reasons, they likely went with the single-row.
I mentioned in another post about where the C-Class is in the MB line, and how they design and treat it. But, for the non-American M271 engines, a simple timing chain upgrade would've made the M271 a near indestructible short-block. There's still the issue of cheap idler pulleys and tensioner pulleys. But, those aren't expensive to fix - assuming that they don't fully fail and take out a lot of other components.
(Btw, from reading and talking with owners, the new CLA MBs are the biggest POS cars MB have sold in America. So, again, it's important to know how a manufacture places and views a model-line. Imho, a CLA is for people that are going to sell/trade it the day that they finish their 4/5 year loan.)
The American M271 engine has "too much boost" for the "built-in" catch-can (oil drain back) to even come close to handling. Plus, the more boost adds more oil to the intake path. That results in the intake valves getting caked with oil/"coke", and getting a super-slight miss. Of course, MB likes to detect even slight misses. So, the ECM detects that super-slight miss or reduced power, sets a MIL, and goes into limp mode.
I knew all of the above before I seriously thought of buying my super sexy coupe.
I "love" my GM cars!! I just like how they drive as a daily commuter car. But, I **HATE** their super mega cr*p reliability. So, I didn't need another "GM-like" car.
My Mustang is over 30 years old, and is very reliable. It is a blast to drive.
But, in New England, we get snow, and rain. Neither of which are great for a rear-wheel drive car that has way too much torque and rear wheel HP. The newer Mustangs with stability control, traction control, etc are better suited. Still, imho, once someone goes with a FWD car in the snow, they're not going back to a RWD car in the snow.
Btw, yes, my C230 and Mustang are both good weather only cars. It's kinda like choosing between vanilla and chocolate ice cream. I love both. Sometimes, I really don't care. Other times, I feel like I want vanilla, or that I want chocolate.
It's called being human. We're complicated.
But, I'm not sure. Nor, do I really care.
The main issue with the M271 engine in general is the MEGA POS single-row timing chain. MB DOES have a design with a double-row timing chain. That's the image they have on their Service DVD. But, for cost reasons, they likely went with the single-row.
I mentioned in another post about where the C-Class is in the MB line, and how they design and treat it. But, for the non-American M271 engines, a simple timing chain upgrade would've made the M271 a near indestructible short-block. There's still the issue of cheap idler pulleys and tensioner pulleys. But, those aren't expensive to fix - assuming that they don't fully fail and take out a lot of other components.
(Btw, from reading and talking with owners, the new CLA MBs are the biggest POS cars MB have sold in America. So, again, it's important to know how a manufacture places and views a model-line. Imho, a CLA is for people that are going to sell/trade it the day that they finish their 4/5 year loan.)
The American M271 engine has "too much boost" for the "built-in" catch-can (oil drain back) to even come close to handling. Plus, the more boost adds more oil to the intake path. That results in the intake valves getting caked with oil/"coke", and getting a super-slight miss. Of course, MB likes to detect even slight misses. So, the ECM detects that super-slight miss or reduced power, sets a MIL, and goes into limp mode.
I knew all of the above before I seriously thought of buying my super sexy coupe.
I "love" my GM cars!! I just like how they drive as a daily commuter car. But, I **HATE** their super mega cr*p reliability. So, I didn't need another "GM-like" car.
My Mustang is over 30 years old, and is very reliable. It is a blast to drive.
But, in New England, we get snow, and rain. Neither of which are great for a rear-wheel drive car that has way too much torque and rear wheel HP. The newer Mustangs with stability control, traction control, etc are better suited. Still, imho, once someone goes with a FWD car in the snow, they're not going back to a RWD car in the snow.
Btw, yes, my C230 and Mustang are both good weather only cars. It's kinda like choosing between vanilla and chocolate ice cream. I love both. Sometimes, I really don't care. Other times, I feel like I want vanilla, or that I want chocolate.
It's called being human.
We're complicated.
