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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 06:52 PM
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On the German eBay was several CD sets, in multiple languages.

EPC Compact Plus CD W203 C-Klasse Stand 03-2004 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

EPC 11/2003 Mercedes W203 C
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MEWA:IT

Are these good?
Nuaghty -Dax is a good dealer. There is another seller called Netto7 selling WIS at the moment.

You have to buy them unelss you can crack [Securom NEW] format.
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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 10:50 PM
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So let me get this correct, we can down load the EPCs from eMule, but need to buy the WIS CDs or DVDs form europe?

It seems the WIS is what we really want, or at least what I want. I want to add voice recognition, add a sedan Bose Amp on my Coupe, add a PSE for phone use, and add CLK seats with multifunction and electrical operation to my Coupe that has manual seats.

It appears that if you want the latest WIS DVD, you have to pay big time. The June 2004 DVD is 379 Euros!!!

The 9/2003 DVD is only 25 Euros now

The 11/2002 MB WIS on 5 CDs is 125 Euros.

Anyone want to go in with me?
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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 02:29 AM
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Originally posted by breastroker
So let me get this correct, we can down load the EPCs from eMule, but need to buy the WIS CDs or DVDs form europe?

It seems the WIS is what we really want, or at least what I want. I want to add voice recognition, add a sedan Bose Amp on my Coupe, add a PSE for phone use, and add CLK seats with multifunction and electrical operation to my Coupe that has manual seats.

It appears that if you want the latest WIS DVD, you have to pay big time. The June 2004 DVD is 379 Euros!!!

The 9/2003 DVD is only 25 Euros now

The 11/2002 MB WIS on 5 CDs is 125 Euros.

Anyone want to go in with me?
In usual Mercedes fashion the WIS is useless without EPC. You cant see much in the way of part numbers.

All the WIS can say is to dismantle and assemble.

I also doubt you will get the benefit of new information on old DVD's. There are too many things you need to know in order to achieve good results to just go with the bare minimum.

I think anyone spending $5000 is well informed if they spend $500 getting the fundamentals in place.

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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 10:35 AM
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Wait a sec....

so you can get WIS + EPC + StarDiag? And you can also get the dongle that connects to the car to let you reprogram the car? Where can you get this?
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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 10:52 AM
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Wait a sec....

so you can get WIS + EPC + StarDiag? And you can also get the dongle that connects to the car to let you reprogram the car? Where can you get this?
The "dongle" is nothing more than a OBD-II cable and it wont do jack.

here is the deal .

1/ Cable
2/ Software
3/ signal control box = multiplexer.

PC - SERIAL CABLE - MUX - OBD CABLE - CAR

If it was that easy you wouldnt see dealers paying $3000 for a Taiwanese clone called Win-Star from ICM.

furthermore, the software may or may not activate. I dont believe it does myself having tried it a few times.

Try this website.

http://www.obdii.com/

and this one also

http://www.ecu-blaster.com

At first I thought someone found the missing hardware but now I realise it is just a chat about a cable. Which does nothing on its own.

Try also .....

http://www.icm.com.tw

You might be interested to know that WinStar activates permanent TV display.
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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 10:54 AM
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It appears that if you want the latest WIS DVD, you have to pay big time. The June 2004 DVD is 379 Euros!!!

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Netto7 @ eBay quoted me around $250 Euro for the same disc.
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 01:26 AM
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I am on mule now, all I can see is MB EPC disks (7 pieces), BW WIS 2003 ISo disks 1-5, WIS-CD1,2,4,5 NRG files, and stardiagnose.MB.WIS..EPC.rar (is that the 2004 one?) It's only 1.13GB.

So - in other words, where is this mystery animal known as 2004 DVD?

Please let us know - the more people download, the sooner it will get reseeded.

Also, please do share some insights on the mux and cable... can the mux be done without? In theory, a mux combines to sets of data, but if we only need to plug into one at a time, do we need that? or will a simple OBDII to car cable suffice?

Thanks
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 01:32 AM
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Originally posted by peet
I am on mule now, all I can see is MB EPC disks (7 pieces), BW WIS 2003 ISo disks 1-5, WIS-CD1,2,4,5 NRG files, and stardiagnose.MB.WIS..EPC.rar (is that the 2004 one?) It's only 1.13GB.

So - in other words, where is this mystery animal known as 2004 DVD?

Please let us know - the more people download, the sooner it will get reseeded.

Also, please do share some insights on the mux and cable... can the mux be done without? In theory, a mux combines to sets of data, but if we only need to plug into one at a time, do we need that? or will a simple OBDII to car cable suffice?

Thanks
Make sure you get a serial number.
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 01:34 AM
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Has someone downloaded these succesfully and got it working?
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 09:40 AM
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by Buellwinkle
Has someone downloaded these succesfully and got it working?
It only takes one of two people to buy EPC for W203 and it can service dozens of people. Its pretty hard to copy. At least my burner can not back it up.

WIS on the other hand can run without the original DVD's if installed in standalone mode.
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 10:23 AM
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nope, not yet
that's encouraging!
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 10:30 AM
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Miroj:

go get yourself a copy of Alcohol 120%

That software will cut through ANYTHING.

http://www.alcohol-software.com/

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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 10:46 AM
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Miroj:

go get yourself a copy of Alcohol 120%

That software will cut through ANYTHING.

http://www.alcohol-software.com/

Peet
So far just coasters. I think the issue lies with the burner. It just isnt good enough to do Secure ROM NEW

I think I need a preferred list burner in the list of ones that do work.
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 12:05 PM
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So far just coasters. I think the issue lies with the burner. It just isnt good enough to do Secure ROM NEW

I think I need a preferred list burner in the list of ones that do work.
Let me borrow it. I'll get it working
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 12:50 PM
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where do you get this from?
Can the dealer order it, and what do i ask for?
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 12:58 PM
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where do you get this from?
Can the dealer order it, and what do i ask for?
Sadly these are NOT avaialable in the US. In Europe you can buy these discs from any dealer.
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 05:42 PM
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it sounds like steve needs to put together a group buy.
STEVE ARE YOU OUT THERE? STEVE CAN YOU HEAR US? STEVE! STEVE!

Somebody needs to get in touch with a european dealer and get these disks.
what are the exact names of these disks?
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by awiner
Let me borrow it. I'll get it working
I would really love to but im on the dark side of the moon.

In a few months mine will be tragic and out of date.

If I was local I would gladly do it. What I think could happen is that you setup a system where you take turns buying it and lending it to others.

I use mine every day - it helps me to answer a lot of questions.

Any burner suggestions ?
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 07:13 PM
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Well, I did fully complete the download of preisliste-EPC_WIS_2004_MB which ended up being an access program that has the price list as of 1.4.2004 in Euros.

Well, now I can see if my dealer is screwing me.

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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by wherman
Well, I did fully complete the download of preisliste-EPC_WIS_2004_MB which ended up being an access program that has the price list as of 1.4.2004 in Euros.

Well, now I can see if my dealer is screwing me.

-Bill
How do you think the parts get to the USA ? Someone has to pay for that.
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 07:38 PM
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How do you think the parts get to the USA ? Someone has to pay for that.
I know that I can't just run a currency rate converter and go "Hey, you're screwing me" But it will help me ballpark it.

Bill
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 07:40 PM
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Those of us with 2002 and 2003 cars don't need the latest 2004 WIS.

I am sure Steve can get these for us?
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 07:46 PM
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i asked steve already and he cannot get them. Someone installed them on his laptop. He has WIS, EPC, and Price List on his. I have a 6/2003 EPC COmpact w203 Original if anyone is interested, PM ME.
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 07:55 PM
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