The end of the Kompressor...
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The end of the Kompressor...
Mercedes to drop Kompressor supercharger technology in favor of turbos
http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content...._code=02421781
Oh well. I guess it's just called progress. Somehow, 230T or 230 Turbo Sport Sedan just doesn't have that same ring to it...
http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content...._code=02421781
Oh well. I guess it's just called progress. Somehow, 230T or 230 Turbo Sport Sedan just doesn't have that same ring to it...
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A Turbo is still a Kompressor! Both are Forced Induction with the same principles and effects on the engine. Just two diferent ways to get more air in the chamber!
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Originally Posted by mctwin2kman
A Turbo is still a Kompressor! Both are Forced Induction with the same principles and effects on the engine. Just two diferent ways to get more air in the chamber!
IMO, compared between the kompressor and turbo, the turbo gives a little more "power" feel, like more pushback into the seatback (comparing a 1.8T to a 2.3K) but kompressor sounds cool
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if you drive the car hard yes there should be a cool down period. my brother has a 1.8T and has this device that will keep the engine runnig until the turbo has cooled. he added this to his car.
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Originally Posted by mctwin2kman
A Turbo is still a Kompressor! Both are Forced Induction with the same principles and effects on the engine. Just two diferent ways to get more air in the chamber!
Supercharger - Kompressor
Turbo - Turbo
I'm sure their marketing types will retain the name with your logic!
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Funny thing is, I came across an article online explaining all the different supers and turbos and it turns out the Roots type supercharger (the one in our cars) is the only one that doesnt actually compress the air as it goes! I wonder if anybody ever completed that screw-type conversion, since it's capable of higher compression and better thermal efficiency...
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Originally Posted by zishan03
Also dont turbos work on feedback from the exhaust or something, so low end power is rubbish isnt it? or not very good?
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Originally Posted by zishan03
Also dont turbos work on feedback from the exhaust or something, so low end power is rubbish isnt it? or not very good?
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Originally Posted by CitronC230K_03
my brother has the 1.8T. he's added in an intercooler, diverter valve, chip, etc. and his turbo kicks @$$.
Stock:
170hp
166Tq
Chipped:
202-205hp
195-200tq
price $490....hmmmm...
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Originally Posted by preyx
Funny thing is, I came across an article online explaining all the different supers and turbos and it turns out the Roots type supercharger (the one in our cars) is the only one that doesnt actually compress the air as it goes! I wonder if anybody ever completed that screw-type conversion, since it's capable of higher compression and better thermal efficiency...
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turbo lag is one issue but another is the excess heat...which requires all the additional components, the harder you drive a turboed car, the hotter the exhaust which would require more cooling. Both komp and turbo do the same thing through different means though, the belt driven komp has no lag since it instantly spools up with the engine.
Would actually be pretty cool if someone made a turbo for the existing C. I remember reading that article about that Saudi rally driver that had a c32 and added 2 turbos to it, since the regular c32 was too slow. Any one know of any tuners that make turbos for the w203??
Would actually be pretty cool if someone made a turbo for the existing C. I remember reading that article about that Saudi rally driver that had a c32 and added 2 turbos to it, since the regular c32 was too slow. Any one know of any tuners that make turbos for the w203??
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Originally Posted by preyx
the Roots type supercharger (the one in our cars) is the only one that doesnt actually compress the air as it goes!
If a roots type supercharger doesn't compress air, then why would they put it there?
If it isn't compressing the air, then all you'd have is a naturally aspirated car, running at atmospheric pressure.
By the way - superchargers are capable of pushing much more air than turbos, it just depends on how they are set up.
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Originally Posted by Yang1815
since it's spinning off the belt, it's always working, just you hit peak when your RPM's high...
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Originally Posted by GDawgC220
sweeet. I'm thinking of chipping the Audi after breaking it in...still deciding tho. Number's look good:
Stock:
170hp
166Tq
Chipped:
202-205hp
195-200tq
price $490....hmmmm...
Stock:
170hp
166Tq
Chipped:
202-205hp
195-200tq
price $490....hmmmm...
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From: Boston
'05 A4 1.8TQM6
Originally Posted by Jon200
Hey are u getting the 1.8TQM or just the 1.8T?
Yes, here are the details
2005 A4 1.8T Quattro
6-Speed Manual
Moro Blue Pearl Metallic
Platinum Leather
Premium Package (homelink, moonroof, leather interior, drivers side power, auto-dim rear view, digital compass)
Cold Weather Package (heated seats, ski-sack)
Sport Package (17" 5-Spoke wheels, low-profile A/S tires, Factory Lowered, Sport tuned suspension)
Infotainment (250-watt Bose, 6-cd indash changer, XM radio)
Lighting Package (projection xenon's, heated headlight washers, lighting sensors)
pretty much loaded up (minus rear sunshade and rear side airbags) should be in my hands @ the end of the month!!!
Gotta have quattro for NE winters, hehe.
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Originally Posted by GDawgC220
I'm assuming 1.8TQM is the Quattro
Yes, here are the details
2005 A4 1.8T Quattro
6-Speed Manual
Moro Blue Pearl Metallic
Platinum Leather
Premium Package (homelink, moonroof, leather interior, drivers side power, auto-dim rear view, digital compass)
Cold Weather Package (heated seats, ski-sack)
Sport Package (17" 5-Spoke wheels, low-profile A/S tires, Factory Lowered, Sport tuned suspension)
Infotainment (250-watt Bose, 6-cd indash changer, XM radio)
Lighting Package (projection xenon's, heated headlight washers, lighting sensors)
pretty much loaded up (minus rear sunshade and rear side airbags) should be in my hands @ the end of the month!!!
Gotta have quattro for NE winters, hehe.
Yes, here are the details
2005 A4 1.8T Quattro
6-Speed Manual
Moro Blue Pearl Metallic
Platinum Leather
Premium Package (homelink, moonroof, leather interior, drivers side power, auto-dim rear view, digital compass)
Cold Weather Package (heated seats, ski-sack)
Sport Package (17" 5-Spoke wheels, low-profile A/S tires, Factory Lowered, Sport tuned suspension)
Infotainment (250-watt Bose, 6-cd indash changer, XM radio)
Lighting Package (projection xenon's, heated headlight washers, lighting sensors)
pretty much loaded up (minus rear sunshade and rear side airbags) should be in my hands @ the end of the month!!!
Gotta have quattro for NE winters, hehe.
I went for a test drive before I got the Benz, very nice car, built quality is great I ended up with the Benz because of the poor customer serivce I got from Audi.
You might find the Audi lacks a bit of punch in factory form though but I am sure an exhaust, chip can change a lot of things.
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'05 A4 1.8TQM6
Originally Posted by Jon200
Yeap, 1.8TQM is the turbo Quattro manual
I went for a test drive before I got the Benz, very nice car, built quality is great I ended up with the Benz because of the poor customer serivce I got from Audi.
You might find the Audi lacks a bit of punch in factory form though but I am sure an exhaust, chip can change a lot of things.
I went for a test drive before I got the Benz, very nice car, built quality is great I ended up with the Benz because of the poor customer serivce I got from Audi.
You might find the Audi lacks a bit of punch in factory form though but I am sure an exhaust, chip can change a lot of things.
For stock, it does well on my commute, passing, highway, city combined
I may chip it after a while
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Originally Posted by GDawgC220
Acutally, I was surprised with the stock turbo...more than I expected
For stock, it does well on my commute, passing, highway, city combined I may chip it after a while
For stock, it does well on my commute, passing, highway, city combined
I may chip it after a while
