Oil pan removal (m271 1.8)
Hello, im working my way through these oil pan removal instructions ive found on this forum (pdf attatched), and thought i'd try my best to share my progress, maybe it will help others.
Why? - im new to working on cars, so i didnt use a new washer on the oil pan plug, over tightened it *..crack* ... so i tightened it some more *...crack*. So i've learned a lesson the hard way, in the future i will pump oil out as intended and i am now the proud owner of a torque wrench, and an engine hoist!
The instructions seem detailed enough so the only additions i could make up to now would be:
- the heatshield above the exhaust gasket, i removed the 3 bolts and kind of just bent it around whatever was obstructing it to remove
- loosen the 2 bolts that secure the exhaust under the car for some wiggle room (tighten a quarter turn then loosen.. repeat, very corroded)
- remove exhaust gasket manifold from side of engine
- remove steering column heatshield (while under the car)
- remove the exhaust gasket from the flange above the cat (2 bolts)
- unbolt lower antiroll bar drop links (seems like they will stop subframe from resting on the suspension arms when its lowered)
- i had to bend/move slightly the black pipe and silver pipe going to transmission to free the pan... i was scared i was going to do damage but it went ok
now it seems that the cat/exhaust can remain in place, and the engine can be raised.
The first problem i've noticed is that after doing number 9 "Detach bracket (6) for power steering pressure line (7) from front axle carrier (5)" i could see that this pipe goes under the subframe, and connects to something after it (seen in my picture)
power steering line under / through subframe
This means that the range of motion i can get by lowering the subframe is limited to not over stretching this power steering line, right?
Tomorrow morning i will have a look again. Im currently using an engine hoist to raise the engine (subframe still attached) and remove as many bolts as i can get at. I've also read people have had success taking off the protective panel directly below the steering rack to access more bolts, ive not looked into that yet. Any input here would be greatly appreciated, ill update this with pictures of my progress through the week
Update*
I now have all the bolts out of the oil pan without removing the subframe but it seems like i will need to because theres just not enough room to slide the pan out- make sure you count the bolt holes on your new oil pan and compare to what you have removed, i missed one because it was hidden behind a pipe thats connected to the bell housing.
bolt hidden behind pipe @ bell housing (remove the 2 bolted clamp to free the bolt behind the pipe
keep track of your bolts with cardboard. and count them. 31 i believe (not counting the bolts that are just used for pipe brackets etc i screw those into my new pan)
used a big rusty chisel @ the pan wedge point next to the radiator fan / under serp. belt to separate the pan after double checking all bolts are removed!
my leaking brake vacuum pump wanted to say hello (oil on top of bell housing-) seems like the metal gasket is corroded. i purchased a new one from germany, instead of an o ring repair kit from USA - not cheap, but quicker for me
Last edited by DjaKRAbb; Nov 26, 2020 at 03:54 PM.
* i have some long bolts the same thread size as the subframe bolts. im going to use them as guides , so i can lower and raise the subframe and have more chances of it lining up in the end. (if only that bolt wasnt stuck, id have pictures already of the completed job !
lol)
Last edited by DjaKRAbb; Nov 21, 2020 at 09:54 AM.
It's never easy so im not surprised. I've already had to drill one of the anti roll bar clamp bolts out and tap a new hole... because i wanted to replace the rubber bushing which i had already purchased, only to find out that they are fused to the roll bar and not removable on my specific model lol im learning alot about fixing cars atleast
I removed the engine hoist hook at the back of the engine and used the 2 front ones to raise the engine as much as possible - there is a hose that you can over stretch , i think power steering , its at the front of the engine on the right side. BUT the oil filter will be touching the firewall before that, so stop when that happens.
New oil pan is in -
3/4 subframe bolts out - it rests on the suspension - all ive done is remove the roll bar from lower drop link
My tip - find a long bolt same size/thread and use it as your guide for lowering / raising the subframe back in to place.
now i just have to torque all the bolts to spec as per the pdf instructions . if it leaks im driving this car straight to the scrap yard haha!
pdf of oil pan sealant patterns for multiple pans (i found on this forum somewhere also)
Last edited by DjaKRAbb; Nov 23, 2020 at 05:01 PM.
Look at how deformed the copper washer is haha
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