Capt Nemo o2

Well, in that case, I have no idea why!

Buellwinkle

Youndoc, I understand your frustration but let me explain why as I have, more than anyone else on the forum gone through the various scenarios and designed a pulley kit for the M111 motors in the past. Take ASP for example, they make pulley kits for Ford (lightning/mustang) and GM (pontiac/buick) superchargers and other companies that make pulley kits for the BMW Mini. These are similar Eaton units with pressed on s/c pulleys and they also sell/rent pulley extractors to get the pressed on pulleys off. Unfortunately, on the MB's the S/C is in a location that precludes you from getting a pulley extractor in there to do the job. Can it be done, sure, but removing the s/c to remove the pulley is beyond most DIY mechanics, but removing a single bolt to remove the crank pulley is not. Ideally, a kit similar to one the Mini pulley kits would be ideal where they put on a collar on the shaft that allows for the quick changeover of different pulleys (maybe one for racing fuel that's more aggressive, one for economy for long trips, one for everyday driving). Also the collar allows for self centering of the pulley, a problem when you are dealing with pressed on pulleys that maybe installed wrong by 1/8" and cause problems with the belt alignment.

ctC230K

very interesting thread. i didn't have time to read all 18 pages but can someone tell me if there is an evosport pulley kit for w230 c230 yet? it's not on their website? and that group buy, is it still going on?

tommy

No, no, and not yet. I wouldn't hold my breath.

Young Doc

This is very interesting. So it IS possible to do just the SC pulley from what I gather. Lets say that we have to pull the radiator and some stuff out to get this thing installed - thats still worth it if we can use a $60-$100 pulley to get about 20HP. I bet if somebody does a great write up we could remove the SC or some engine bay components to get the room to remove the pulley. Another option is to see if someone could design a pulley puller to use in such a tight spot. The reason I am really pulling for the SC pulley is that it is safer, cheaper and proven - I think that we are creative enough to come up with a viable installation procedure. An aggressive SC pulley and header should run about $1000 or less - putting us at about 250HP and 300+TQ. From my experience if our exhaust (particularly header) flows well it can handle the more aggressive pulley with few problems. If we get this done we would have a legitimate performance car on our hands.

drexappeal

Lazy A$$...LOL...So you can take all those pics, but not look through the entire 10 million page thread for info?...HAHAHA...Just playin'.

The kit is in development and according to Brad Otoupalik's (Evosport) post (a few posts before you), they are slightly delayed.

His user name is Otoupalik if you want to check out his posts.

ctC230K

what other pulley kits are there? i know about kleeman and i bet renntech has one but those are about $2000. how about something for $600 max?

ctC230K

lool i know, i will read them all eventually but i just want the answer and a cheap pulley i can buy right now.

ctC230K

Guys I was looking at some smoke pipe this morning and I am seriously considering custom fabricating my own intake system. It would be a ram air using the K&N filter and similar setup to the stock airbox and inlet pipe. what do you think?

tommy

Renntech has one, from their website - www.renntechmercedes.com

I just got a Renntech installed on my 2002 - got it new off ebay for $720, which was the deal of the century.

Other than that one, maybe ASP has one - not sure about that. But that's it for you guys - you're pretty much screwed, unless Evosport's pulley comes into fruition. I'm not saying it won't, but the target market is very small, especially considering the '06es, of course.

nlpamg

yeah, but you have the M111 engine, we're waiting on the one for 2003 and up (M271).

drexappeal

As for "cheap" pulleys, not sure it exists right now, but I know that there is somebody putting "feelers" out to sell a Kleeman pulley kit for the M271. It's in the Classifieds. I know there are a couple others, but can't remember what companies. I think there's another thread about it. I'll pm you the link when I get a chance.

tommy

Did you check Renntech's website? According to it, the M271 is available.

Don't know of anyone who has it yet, though.

ctC230K

kleeman and renntech are like ac schnitzer and hamann, you have to have $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ flowing out the aasss to get their products

otoupalik

Not yet due to manufacturing issues. We will have a special on the first 10 units.

Thanks,
Brad

nlpamg

Brad, will that special include a discount on installation if I take my car directly to your shop? How much will the install run me at evosport? Thanks!

slkfans

I have recently got myself a Kleemann M271 Pulley Kit with the K-Box, I just can't wait to it fix into my vehicle. I am holding back as it keeps disturbing me whether I should exclude the installation of the K-BOX. I was informed that the K-Box works with the MB stock ECU, however, I had my ECU tuned by MKB of germany. The question is will my engine blow up if the K-Box works with the current MKB ECU with different parameters ?

Without the Kleemann K-BOX, having to install the pulley kit, will there be any noticeable difference ?
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nlpamg

Wow, I assume you're not in the US... How is the MKB ECU setup? Did you notice anything significant? Also, how much did the Kleemann kit run you? and also the MKB ECU? Thanks!

ctC230K

Awesome where do we sign up?

otoupalik

Send me an email and I will get in on the list now.

Thanks,
Brad

SergC

Brad,
Count me in,please...

sergconon@yahoo.com.

Regards,

Serg

slkfans

Ok guys, here is the update. My vehicle ECU has been fine-tuned by MKB of Germany and obviously the car is very much alive compared to the stock ECU. The throttle response does give it a punch.

I installed the Kleemann M271 pulley kit yesterday and I am not taking any chances to have the Kleemann K-Box fiited in as I am afraid it may not work with the current MKB ECU paramenters installed in my vehicle. However, the Kleemann M271 pulley kit does change the entire car behaviour. The throttle, acceleration is amazing. Now the pulley kit really make a hell lot of difference. I compared the weight of the stock pulley against the Kleemann, the Kleemann is so much lighter.

I will be enjoying the ride this week with the Kleemann pulley kit.

ctC230K

damn, please post a video for us? how about 0-60 and HP? what do you get?
thanks man!

ctC230K

email sent.
so you're an admin and you work for evosport?

mig888

ct:
You know not a few weeks ago I actually took a video of me doing 0-60+ vs. a 2005.. nukblazi hosted it for me. I also have that Kleemann M271 Kit.

mig