Outland

Exactly. Don't complain to us, we could care less. To me, Lexus is a really nice coffin. Comfy, sure. Secure and solid...yep, has to be, its a coffin. But something I want to be in? No effen way! Lexus is like a pricey Buick, but with overhead cams, instead of pushrods.

Infinity is showing the most innovative stuff of all the Japanese wannabees, Lexus is just dull city. And everything over at Acura is just a redone Accord, except the ancient two seater. So, if your telling me never having any issues, or 'percieved' quality is all that matters, might as well just stick with the Camrys and Accords and save a lot of money.

Outland

Not quite. Toyota(there is no "lexus", its just a brand) changed the head design to make the engine run hotter in the combustion chambers for emissions reasons(cleaner burn, so far, so good- certainly a reasonable goal), but the extra heat "cooks" the oil in the heads, and many people who changed there oil per the factory intervals still got sludged. And as fars as the 'good faith' part goes, Toyota denied there was a problem, until AFTER they changed the head design again. The threat of a class action lawsuit, and over a thousand letters to the NHTSA , several high profile articles, and frequent mentions in the news, gave them a change of heart. It would have been suicide not to. Acura/Honda was forced to do the same thing with its troublesome automatics. Once again, AFTER the design was changed.

Its hardly Shoddy build quality. Go drive a Ford or a Kia if you want to know what shoddy is. I'm plenty happy with the car, regardless of what the so called quality experts say. I'd rather have my Benz have glitch than have to drive something as boring as an ES300.

mick1

"...Your mind is tiffany twisted. You got the Mercedes-Benz"

-- song: Hotel California, artist:The Eagles

trout

you guys are right. and as much as i fear getting a mb that will give me troubles down the road...I cant change my mind. All i think about these days is that c230 that i drove. It calls to me. I drove it and there no going back. Im certain that when my truck sells, I will be getting that white sport sedan, 6sp, with the lighter interior. No sunroof or any options, pretty much a base c230 sport sedan. I cant get her out of my mind. :v

So you guys have given me the scary stuff...how about some reassurance now? Tell me how wonderful the car is! Even with the little annoyances, has the car ever left you stranded?

mctwin2kman

As long as some little things don't bother you I am sure you will be happy with your purchase. It is a crap shoot with every car maker as to if you are going to be the lucky one with no problems and the one that got the last car off the line on a Friday with all the bugs in it! And that is what warranty is for. If they were all going to be perfect off the line and for the first 50,000 miles there would not be a warranty needed. But crap happens and some stuff just fails so it is needed. Thank god for some that in MB's case it is 50,000 miles and not 3/36 like my last Saturn. Had the tranny in that car worked on three times during its lease. As a matter of fact we did not even drive it the last three months since the warranty was done and I did not want to turn it in with a problem that would have cost me! Funny though that my 18 year old 190E does not have any other issues than old plastic breaking! Car runs and drives fine after 160,000 miles with only normal maint needed. And I have no idea how it was treated for the first 155,000 miles.

r_liebo

Missing the point. Poster's question wasn't "why did you buy a Benz" or "is Lexus dull?" They asked about build quality. Mentioning that MB quality isn't what it was or that it isn't up to Lexus standards isn't complaining to people on this board -- it is just reality. Just trying to offer objective advice and an answer to the question asked. Having issues with your car and quality issues are not all that matters -- just all that was asked in the original question.

kokketiel

Just keep in mind that this is a 2+ year old article.

tommy

I love it how people are acting like you can either have cool stuff OR reliability.

At this point, what's on a Benz that's not on an Infiniti or Lexus car, options-wise? And do you hear their owners saying that you should accept inferior quality because they have these options?

MB's "solution" for their quality problems (at least partially) of decontenting is about the most gutless way of dealing with them. Why should that be defended?