C230K Burnouts and Questions
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C230K Burnouts and Questions
I have a 2002 c230k with a 6speed manual, and i drive it pretty nice around usually but sometimes i just gotta have some fun :v . I know all about the DYNO mode so the ESP kicking in is no concern. I've tried doing a 4000rpm + clutch drop and is it just me, or does it sometimes not let you drop the clutch? I've had an instance where all it does is rev the engine up and not engage the gears. Just wondering if that's another system MB has implemented. I've been pretty succesful at spinning the rear tires for 4-5 sec on dry pavement. Wondering how the rest of you guys do our burnouts with the manuals. At what rpm's do you drop the clutch, or do you do a clutch slip instead? I'm also aware that a bunch of people will start complaining about it being bad for the tires, trans etc. But this isn't your car, so why would u care
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PS: i'll get a vid up of my car doing some burnouts, donuts, and drifts in the coming weeks :p, so stay tuned
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2005 Obsidian Black C230 Komp Sports Sedan, 2006 Iridium Silver ML350 SUV
nice! id love to see some videos.. as of how to do that.. i dunno either... (driving an auto myself)
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i dont know if i'm correct in saying this, but isn't a clutch slip worse for your car since you're effectively burning the hell outta your clutch? i've been told and have read other places that the clutch drop is better because all of the engine power is brought straight to the wheels and not shredding your clutch...i realize this isn't any kind of answer you were lookin for, just thought i'd bring it up and get corrected if i was wrong
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oh yea, and bring on those vids! (my car's an automatic :o
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oh yea, and bring on those vids! (my car's an automatic :o
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Originally Posted by r3v1ls
I have a 2002 c230k with a 6speed manual, and i drive it pretty nice around usually but sometimes i just gotta have some fun :v . I know all about the DYNO mode so the ESP kicking in is no concern. I've tried doing a 4000rpm + clutch drop and is it just me, or does it sometimes not let you drop the clutch? I've had an instance where all it does is rev the engine up and not engage the gears. Just wondering if that's another system MB has implemented. I've been pretty succesful at spinning the rear tires for 4-5 sec on dry pavement. Wondering how the rest of you guys do our burnouts with the manuals. At what rpm's do you drop the clutch, or do you do a clutch slip instead? I'm also aware that a bunch of people will start complaining about it being bad for the tires, trans etc. But this isn't your car, so why would u care
?
PS: i'll get a vid up of my car doing some burnouts, donuts, and drifts in the coming weeks :p, so stay tuned
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Originally Posted by blkc230k
(driving an auto myself)
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but I don't do that all to often... cause I actualy do care about my tranny and tires ... JK
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Originally Posted by Deutscher_Wagen
Me too, and it's super easy to burn rubber, with the 05: press the ESP button and punch it
but I don't do that all to often... cause I actualy do care about my tranny and tires ... JK![Cool](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/cool.gif)
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but I don't do that all to often... cause I actualy do care about my tranny and tires ... JK
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When i had my all season, I wouldnt even need to do a 4k rpm drop
3k is enough to do a short burn out. We dont have enough power to do
a long burn out. And i have the orginal asp alum pully still on my car.
When i switch to my falkens azeins i can not really do burn outs.. drifting is 10x more hard.... and now i dont even try..
the tires made a HUGE difference.
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3k is enough to do a short burn out. We dont have enough power to do
a long burn out. And i have the orginal asp alum pully still on my car.
When i switch to my falkens azeins i can not really do burn outs.. drifting is 10x more hard.... and now i dont even try..
the tires made a HUGE difference.
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Yah Clutch slip is probably worse on the clutch cuz u would be burning it. I'm guessin the reason it is soo hard to do burnouts on the c230's is because of the grippy rubber. The car has enough power to spin the tires, it's got more torque than horses
. I'm still wondering if the car restricts high RPM clutch drops. I live in LA so it's uhh little hard to race anything in all this traffic and all the cops :-/. And i've never taken it to a track. I'll hopefully get a vid this weekend or the next.
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Originally Posted by inFiniTE LooP
hmmm, i've got a 2004.5 C230K and any time i floor it without holding the brake down first, there is always perhaps a half second of lag before i get going, and my tires never burn rubber, anyone else getting this or am i the only one? (if i am i'm definitely gettin my car checked out!)
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Remember there is more then the clutch to worry about. Just reving even though the clutch pedal is out. That's clutch burn my friend. I've broken two ring gears and one pinion, yes, a pinion. There's more that can break too.
Anyway, let the tach bounce at 4, just keep the pedal floored, let the clutch out in stages, and feather the gas to control the slide. If you really want to get the back end loose, turn the wheel into the opposite direction you want the slide to go.
W/K23 pulley, lwt flywheel and 6-puck clutch, I could light the *** end up for a good hundred yards coming out of a tight turn in second. Off a straight launch, even with the RA-1 race rubber, I can light them up for 4 - 5 seconds then 1 - 2 in seconds. I have all seasons on right now. I am scared what I could do to these. :v
Anyway, let the tach bounce at 4, just keep the pedal floored, let the clutch out in stages, and feather the gas to control the slide. If you really want to get the back end loose, turn the wheel into the opposite direction you want the slide to go.
W/K23 pulley, lwt flywheel and 6-puck clutch, I could light the *** end up for a good hundred yards coming out of a tight turn in second. Off a straight launch, even with the RA-1 race rubber, I can light them up for 4 - 5 seconds then 1 - 2 in seconds. I have all seasons on right now. I am scared what I could do to these. :v
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Originally Posted by Deutscher_Wagen
we aren't taking about a glorious 10 minute burn out here, but without touching the breaks I can get a burn before it catches. I also have the stock micheline tires on it (rear has 245's, before 2005 I think they only had 225's)... by the way, those tires are incredible.
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I have a manual and I usually drop it around 3500 no more that 4 usually. It will spin hard but its kinda pointless since it is a one wheel special. The most fun is in the wet or the snow. Also 3-3500 is a good rpm cause you get the power down well. I've never really experienced any hesitation, only the right rear just spinning if i gave too much gas.
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Originally Posted by inFiniTE LooP
hmmm, maybe i should drive somebody elses C230 then, because i swear when i floor the gas, i sit there for a little bit before i even start moving and i definitely dont receive all of the power at once until i'm already in motion ![Frown](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif)
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Granite, if you floor it going around a turn you will get the one wheel special, the inside wheel. Probably if you were brake torqing in an auto too.
If you have a manual, get the tires starting to spin, get the clutch released then ease into the brake while still flooring it. Depending on how good you are you can work both the brake and clutch with your left foot. You will get a nasty two wheeler going. All else fails, throw down some water/amonia mix and let it rip.
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Originally Posted by Deutscher_Wagen
are you sure traction control is disabled?
the road type and condition also play a large factor.
the road type and condition also play a large factor.
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Yeah I have hit the button and hit the gas a few seconds later and found sometimes it does not disable if you do not hit the button ahead of time. I have also been kicking the *** end out before and had the ESP turn back on due to the car sliding all around, although I had intended to slide all around I do not think the computer liked that so much. ![Big Grin](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
As for smoking the tires with a 6 speed. I hold the brake with my right foot and hit the gas at the same time, only bringin it to about 1500-2000 RPM and let the clutch out and release the brake a hair while still holding it and can sit and spin them til they pop if I want. Only did this once or twice because tires aint cheap. I have more fun now actually pushing it to its limits without tire slip, since that is the best way to actually do it. Being at the hairy edge of the tires ability without breaking loose it the best way to go!![Big Grin](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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As for smoking the tires with a 6 speed. I hold the brake with my right foot and hit the gas at the same time, only bringin it to about 1500-2000 RPM and let the clutch out and release the brake a hair while still holding it and can sit and spin them til they pop if I want. Only did this once or twice because tires aint cheap. I have more fun now actually pushing it to its limits without tire slip, since that is the best way to actually do it. Being at the hairy edge of the tires ability without breaking loose it the best way to go!
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Originally Posted by mctwin2kman
As for smoking the tires with a 6 speed. I hold the brake with my right foot and hit the gas at the same time, only bringin it to about 1500-2000 RPM and let the clutch out and release the brake a hair while still holding it and can sit and spin them til they pop if I want. Only did this once or twice because tires aint cheap. I have more fun now actually pushing it to its limits without tire slip, since that is the best way to actually do it. Being at the hairy edge of the tires ability without breaking loose it the best way to go!![Big Grin](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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It is unfortunate how "un-heel-toe friendly" the pedal configuration is in these cars. You've got to be a contorsionist to do it well.
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Originally Posted by nukblazi
Spinning tires isn't fast, never was, never will be. It's just fun. I am ritualistic about doing this when I need to get new tires. "But honey, look at my back tires. They're bald!" ![Big Grin](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
It is unfortunate how "un-heel-toe friendly" the pedal configuration is in these cars. You've got to be a contorsionist to do it well.
I just use my left foot on the brake and clutch because a. they are closer to each other and b. my left foot ends on the brake anyway.
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It is unfortunate how "un-heel-toe friendly" the pedal configuration is in these cars. You've got to be a contorsionist to do it well.
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Burnouts are a LOT easier in the 2002, with the M111. If youve got a 1.8 and an automatic...pretty much forget it unless you run all seasons on really glazed asphalt.
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Hey everyone, thanks for the kickass feedback to this
, learned a lotta stuff i didn't know before. Anyways, i went out to my friend's today, and had a lil fun :v . Oh and we also recorded it too. The stuff came out much better than i expected it :p . It's currently being edited by my friend, so i'll either post it up later tonite or sometime tommorow, so stay tuned!
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