Poor car cleaning products
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Poor car cleaning products
Anyone got any experience to share regarding products that dont work so well?....what did it do/not do to your car?
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You deserve some response
OK,
I don't use Armor All anymore - too shiny.
I don't use Windex anymore for cars - I use Stoner's Glass Cleaner - better by far
I don't use abrasive rubbing compounds any more such as the common ones - 3M now has very good gentle compounds
I don't use Armor All anymore - too shiny.
I don't use Windex anymore for cars - I use Stoner's Glass Cleaner - better by far
I don't use abrasive rubbing compounds any more such as the common ones - 3M now has very good gentle compounds
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I don't use any wax or polishing products that you can buy at Pep Boys or Wal Mart (like Maguires, Turtle Wax or Spacewax 2000). I don't use Maguires clay bar as it left a messy residue all over my car that was tough to get off. I no longer use cotton diapers to dry or wax my car (but they still work on the dirt bikes and wife's silver car).
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Re: You deserve some response
Originally posted by Duffer
I don't use Windex anymore for cars - I use Stoner's Glass Cleaner - better by far.
I don't use Windex anymore for cars - I use Stoner's Glass Cleaner - better by far.
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Originally posted by Buellwinkle
I don't use any wax or polishing products that you can buy at Pep Boys or Wal Mart (like Maguires, Turtle Wax or Spacewax 2000). I don't use Maguires clay bar as it left a messy residue all over my car that was tough to get off. I no longer use cotton diapers to dry or wax my car (but they still work on the dirt bikes and wife's silver car).
I don't use any wax or polishing products that you can buy at Pep Boys or Wal Mart (like Maguires, Turtle Wax or Spacewax 2000). I don't use Maguires clay bar as it left a messy residue all over my car that was tough to get off. I no longer use cotton diapers to dry or wax my car (but they still work on the dirt bikes and wife's silver car).
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It's not Pep Boys fault, they just carry low end stuff. I like Klasse wax and I use commercial grade polishing compounds because the have a high clay content and are oil base (not cheap water based polishes like Maguires).
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I love Zymol's products.
I have to agree that Turtle Wax, Armor All, etc. products are somewhat difficult to use and produce less-than-excellent results.
For those with some extra money to spend on car wax:
http://www.zymol.com/vintage2.htm
I have to agree that Turtle Wax, Armor All, etc. products are somewhat difficult to use and produce less-than-excellent results.
For those with some extra money to spend on car wax:
http://www.zymol.com/vintage2.htm
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Zymol cleaner wax
I used Zymol cleaner wax on my c230 last weekend and it has never looked better. I applied two coats and then sprayed cool, clean water onto the freshly waxed finish and buffed with a polishing cloth. A light spray of water will "set" and level the natural ingredients for a more brilliant, even shine. Before I did this the finish had dark streaks throughout. It looked great after being "set".
I had used Meguiar's Gold Class on it a few weeks before, but it appeared to bring out or create swirl marks. It looked terrible under sunlight. I had been using Meguiar's Gold Class or Medallion for years without any problems. I have switched to Zymol and convinced many others at work to do the same. I know most members like Zaino Bros, but Zymol is inexpensive and available everywhere for about $13. I was also told it was rated #1 in Consumer Reports for what its worth.
I had used Meguiar's Gold Class on it a few weeks before, but it appeared to bring out or create swirl marks. It looked terrible under sunlight. I had been using Meguiar's Gold Class or Medallion for years without any problems. I have switched to Zymol and convinced many others at work to do the same. I know most members like Zaino Bros, but Zymol is inexpensive and available everywhere for about $13. I was also told it was rated #1 in Consumer Reports for what its worth.
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Originally posted by DCX Engineer
I used Zymol cleaner wax on my c230 last weekend and it has never looked better. I applied two coats and then sprayed cool, clean water onto the freshly waxed finish and buffed with a polishing cloth. A light spray of water will "set" and level the natural ingredients for a more brilliant, even shine. Before I did this the finish had dark streaks throughout. It looked great after being "set".
I used Zymol cleaner wax on my c230 last weekend and it has never looked better. I applied two coats and then sprayed cool, clean water onto the freshly waxed finish and buffed with a polishing cloth. A light spray of water will "set" and level the natural ingredients for a more brilliant, even shine. Before I did this the finish had dark streaks throughout. It looked great after being "set".
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Forget Zymollllllllllllllll !
We are supposed to be purists on this forum.
For those who think being obsessive is not enough, go to
www.zainobros.com
You have reached obsessive heaven.
For those who think being obsessive is not enough, go to
www.zainobros.com
You have reached obsessive heaven.
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Re: Forget Zymollllllllllllllll !
Originally posted by Duffer
We are supposed to be purists on this forum.
For those who think being obsessive is not enough, go to
www.zainobros.com
You have reached obsessive heaven.
We are supposed to be purists on this forum.
For those who think being obsessive is not enough, go to
www.zainobros.com
You have reached obsessive heaven.
Thumbs up for Zaino ! I use Zaino and love it.
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I am surprised by this Forum
the TT forum used to have verbal fights over Pinnacle Wax v. Zaino -
having decided that all the other products are in a small minority.
having decided that all the other products are in a small minority.
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Re: I am surprised by this Forum
Originally posted by Duffer
the TT forum used to have verbal fights over Pinnacle Wax v. Zaino -
having decided that all the other products are in a small minority.
the TT forum used to have verbal fights over Pinnacle Wax v. Zaino -
having decided that all the other products are in a small minority.
Actually to me the wax is the absolute least import step in making your car shiny. A really good polish with a high speed buffer with foam buffing pad can make a car sparkle without a drop of wax. The wax just protects the finish.
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I also love Zaino, particularly since they added the ZFX product that speeds up the drying process.
However, for those of you who haven't heard of Pinnacle -- the stuff is great. I have used the carnuba on my other car for the past two years (recently put on two coats) and still receive compliments from strangers. They also have a quick spray detailer that works very well.
However, for those of you who haven't heard of Pinnacle -- the stuff is great. I have used the carnuba on my other car for the past two years (recently put on two coats) and still receive compliments from strangers. They also have a quick spray detailer that works very well.
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I don't mean to go too off subject here, but since there are a few posters that like Zaino products, and I have a question for them: Does anyone use a wax product on top of the Zaino polish?
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Pinnacle at Wallmart ?(Cringe)
Ummm, Pinnacle is supposedly the creme de la creme of waxes -- go to CLassic Motoring Accessories or Autofanatics.com (I think that is the spelling) on the web
Good one! At Pep Boys! (LOL)
Good one! At Pep Boys! (LOL)
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On top of Zaino
No Striker, I don't use anything over Zaino Polish except the Zaino Z6 Gloss
Don't know if I would want to -- might dull the deep reflection.
Don't know if I would want to -- might dull the deep reflection.
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Re: On top of Zaino
Originally posted by Duffer
No Striker, I don't use anything over Zaino Polish except the Zaino Z6 Gloss
Don't know if I would want to -- might dull the deep reflection.
No Striker, I don't use anything over Zaino Polish except the Zaino Z6 Gloss
Don't know if I would want to -- might dull the deep reflection.
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Yes, Striker,
Whatever they put in Zaino, it serves the same protection purposes as wax and I don't think it is designed to put a different product over it.
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i completely detailed the outside of my car yesterday (part of my birthday fun).
Washed her, used the Mb paint cleaner (meguires) the mb paint polish (again meguires) and then 2 coats of meguires quick carnuba wax.
The hood was so flawless and shiney (minus a tiny rock chip) that a girl walking her dog, stopped and used the hood of my car to fix her hair.
If i am diligent, and wash the car 2 times a week to remove contaminents, the shine will remain for about 4-6 weeks using spot detailer. This is fine with me, since it only took about 2-3 hours to do the entire car, vs 2-3 days of perfect weather to zaino, for 6-8 weeks of shine.
Washed her, used the Mb paint cleaner (meguires) the mb paint polish (again meguires) and then 2 coats of meguires quick carnuba wax.
The hood was so flawless and shiney (minus a tiny rock chip) that a girl walking her dog, stopped and used the hood of my car to fix her hair.
If i am diligent, and wash the car 2 times a week to remove contaminents, the shine will remain for about 4-6 weeks using spot detailer. This is fine with me, since it only took about 2-3 hours to do the entire car, vs 2-3 days of perfect weather to zaino, for 6-8 weeks of shine.
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Klasse and Zaino are synthetic waxes and Pinnacle sounds like a natural caranuba wax. I would not mix the two. Both Klasse and Zaino offer glaze products to add shine to their waxes. I have never tried Zaino but Klasse, which they sell at most MB dealers has worked for me for years.
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Hi Greg
I do the entire Zaino thing (wash, (strip the wax), claybar, polish) about once a year, probably should be every 6 months - and it takes about 8 hours to entirely clean the whole car including wheels, undercoating, etc.
And then, every other time I wash I just put a quick coat of Zaino polish on the car and buff 30 minutes later and am done. It's not a problem and doesn't take much time. And the shine gets deeper with each coat.
I just do that and the once a year overhaul.
And then, every other time I wash I just put a quick coat of Zaino polish on the car and buff 30 minutes later and am done. It's not a problem and doesn't take much time. And the shine gets deeper with each coat.
I just do that and the once a year overhaul.
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Re: Hi Greg
Originally posted by Duffer
I do the entire Zaino thing (wash, (strip the wax), claybar, polish) about once a year, probably should be every 6 months - and it takes about 8 hours to entirely clean the whole car including wheels, undercoating, etc.
And then, every other time I wash I just put a quick coat of Zaino polish on the car and buff 30 minutes later and am done. It's not a problem and doesn't take much time. And the shine gets deeper with each coat.
I just do that and the once a year overhaul.
I do the entire Zaino thing (wash, (strip the wax), claybar, polish) about once a year, probably should be every 6 months - and it takes about 8 hours to entirely clean the whole car including wheels, undercoating, etc.
And then, every other time I wash I just put a quick coat of Zaino polish on the car and buff 30 minutes later and am done. It's not a problem and doesn't take much time. And the shine gets deeper with each coat.
I just do that and the once a year overhaul.