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A button under the gas pedal....wut is it for?

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Old Feb 23, 2005 | 11:57 PM
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The WOT, wide open throttle, switch. When actuated, the engine ECU uses a different map, with greater emissions, to motivate at a greater rate.
Really? The button actually changes the fuel maps? Do the MBZ manuals have this button? I know the BMW autos have it, but BMW manuals do not, so in BMWs case I doubt this button changes the fuel maps, because for this to be the case it would have to be present in both types.
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Old Feb 24, 2005 | 08:46 AM
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Really? The button actually changes the fuel maps? Do the MBZ manuals have this button? I know the BMW autos have it, but BMW manuals do not, so in BMWs case I doubt this button changes the fuel maps, because for this to be the case it would have to be present in both types.
Yes the MB Manual's have it still. There is a Drive By Wire Throttle so this is the WOT Switch! On my W201 the WOT switch is on the actual throttle body, but that has a direct cable to it so it will not be off in any way. The Drive By Wire actuates the Throttle Body so the KickDown Switch acts as both KickDown and WOT sensor!
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 10:42 PM
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i've heard someone say "kickdown" but didn't know what it was and i've noticed the button under my throttle pedal but didn't know what it was for and now i know! i did some expirimenting with the button and i'm guessing it's only for auto transmission. pressing it on my 6 speed makes no difference in acceleration. i was hoping it would instantly increase supercharger boost or something haha.
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 10:54 AM
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I know it get's used a lot when I drive.
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 12:23 PM
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i've heard someone say "kickdown" but didn't know what it was and i've noticed the button under my throttle pedal but didn't know what it was for and now i know! i did some expirimenting with the button and i'm guessing it's only for auto transmission. pressing it on my 6 speed makes no difference in acceleration. i was hoping it would instantly increase supercharger boost or something haha.
It is there on thye sticks to verify to the ECU that you are at WOT. If your throttle is opening enough and at WOT before you hit the button then all it really does is tell the ECU that you are definetely at WOT. Normally when I drive the W203 I do not think I ever really push the gas down to activate the button. Now on my W201 I have to hit the button sometimes to force the downshift to the lowest possible gear for the speed I am at. Since the tranny only drops one gear with the Bowden cable. So if I am doing 25 in 4th and push the gas down I only drop to 3rd. If I want 2nd I have to push the button. And with only 120Hp it needs the lowest possible gear for best acceleration....
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 12:39 PM
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I don't do WOT anymore, since the gas here is like $2.49 for premium. But I also felt the button too while I was testing the car with a dop in K&N filter. I hit the redline much faster now~
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 02:04 PM
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Hmm, i always thought it was to send out the smoke screen and the oil slick to get the bad guys behind you, and two presses sends out side winder missles.
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 04:34 PM
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The user setup speed limiter can also be changed in increments of 1mph. read the owners manual for more details.
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 01:06 AM
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so if i were to hold that button down say from a stand still till i hit 135....there will be no problems for my auto tranny to shift? ...it wouldn't redline for too long or anything will it?
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 01:17 AM
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a quarter mile at a time
tranny should be fine
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 09:11 AM
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man, i hate to be a ***** here but you'd think with someone buying a higher end car like this (even if it is the baseline MB), it'd attract two main types of people: driving/automobile enthusiasts, and rich people without a clue. i can see that the latter is the majority here.

even a 50's chevy did have a type of kickdown setup, linked to the throttle/vacumm (just so's ya'll know- throttle position and vaccum pressure are directly related in naturally aspirated cars, and even in super/turbo-charged vehicles, but the forced inducion adds another factor i'm not even going to touch on here.)

i thought that a WOT/kickdown setup was common knowledge.....even my mother knows what it is, and where it is, and shes not car savvy at all!
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 11:13 AM
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it's not just 10 km/h increments you can set. If you pull the lever towards yourself , the increments are 1 km/h.
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by mctwin2kman
It is to tell the ECU that the Drive By Wire Throttle is at Wide Open Throttle on all models. Also is the kickdown for the auto tranny. The tranny by design will only drop one gear lower unless you hit that switch. So if you are going 40 MPH in 5th and floor it but do not engage the kickdown switch you will only drop to 4th gear. The switch tells the tranny controller to drop to the absolute lowest gear that can be used so at 40 it would drop to at least 3rd. I even have this on my 190E, it uses a standard bowden cable for downshifting but at say 25 I am in 4th if just cruising, so it will only drop to 3rd. Well I want 2nd so I push hard enough to engage the switch and then my transmission drops to 2nd for me. Also in that car it forces a 1st gear start as opposed to 2nd gear which is normal. Its main purpose though is WOT!
That is correct, wow some of you guys really drive your cars pretty hard
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 02:19 PM
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That is correct, wow some of you guys really drive your cars pretty hard
My poor 190 is 20 years old and has only 120Hp! It needs to be floored to get it going compared to todays auto's. I mean the thing had a 0-60 time of 10 seconds. I had a Neon and a Saturn before the Benz's. The Saturn 0-60 was something like 9 or so and the Neon was supposedly in the high 7's. So 10 is quite the slow down when getting on the highway. Especially after I have driven the W203. Which is no barn burner but is not slow either. Now that I have done some work tweaking the air and fuel flow on the 190 it is a bit better but maybe doing 9 now instead of 10. She is good on the highway it is just off the line that she is slow. Since it does start off in second gear unless you floor it......
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 03:13 PM
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Uh, no it doesn't. I've had my pedal to the floor and still been shut down at 135.

Hmm, 135, I thought I touched 139, perhaps even 140. I "WUZ" driven up DA 5 on the way TA Napa. I'll admit that at those speeds I "WUZNT" paying 2 much attention to the speedo though.

Rick, WHO CARES HOW PEOPLE SPELL & PUNCTUATE?
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 03:19 PM
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The foot is nearest the switch when tempomat (speed limit mode) is engaged - you can be driving at 18mph and have your foot all the way down and it doesnt go much faster all (unless dowhill). A press of the switch and it all switches off.
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by gaiex
I had a 98' automatic CLK200K and it had the switch and it was great

One question, I have my coupe, a diesel one, with 6 manual gears and it have the switch too!!!
Does it do anything, I didn't noticed yet???

The switch is also present in the diesel cars (CDI's to be precise) to enable the turbocharger to spool up earlier...I have driven an E 270 CDI 6-speed, u dont need to let go off the accelerator pedal when changin gears as long as u have ur foot all the way down n have the button pressed.
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 06:08 PM
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yeah this button is useless for the 6 speed. but its really fun to use on the auto's
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 07:45 PM
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thats the oh shiiiiiit button
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by PsssTkiD
i was waiting in the car....and the car engine was off....i was playing with the gas and pressing it all the way, then theres a button!.. wut is that for?
It purges the air from the gas tank to make the petrol burn leaner & give you more power!!!!!!!
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