Mercedes introduces new V6 gasoline lineup
03-30-2005, 05:21 AM
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Mercedes introduces new V6 gasoline lineup
Hey everyone,
Mercedes is now introducing a new V6-gasoline lineup in Germany and Europe.
They are: C230 V6 with 204 hp Available in all C-class models
C280 V6 with 231 hp Available in all models except sportcoupe
C350 V6 with 272 hp Available in all C-class models
The C230 (2,5 liter) replaces the C230 Kompressor, the C280 (3,0 liter) replaces the C240 and the C350 (3,5 liter) replaces the C320. Prices are said to stay identical to the old models. More power for the same amount of money,a good deal if you ask me.
Here are the German prices:
C230 V6 sedan: 32.248 Euros
C280 V6 sedan: 33.408 Euros
C350 V6 sedan: 39.498 Euros
C230 V6 wagon: 33.988 Euros
C280 V6 wagon: 35.148 Euros
C350 V6 wagon: 41.238 Euros
C230 V6 sportcoupe: 30.740 Euros
C350 V6 sportcoupe: 34.162 Euros
Mercedes is now introducing a new V6-gasoline lineup in Germany and Europe.
They are: C230 V6 with 204 hp Available in all C-class models
C280 V6 with 231 hp Available in all models except sportcoupe
C350 V6 with 272 hp Available in all C-class models
The C230 (2,5 liter) replaces the C230 Kompressor, the C280 (3,0 liter) replaces the C240 and the C350 (3,5 liter) replaces the C320. Prices are said to stay identical to the old models. More power for the same amount of money,a good deal if you ask me.
Here are the German prices:
C230 V6 sedan: 32.248 Euros
C280 V6 sedan: 33.408 Euros
C350 V6 sedan: 39.498 Euros
C230 V6 wagon: 33.988 Euros
C280 V6 wagon: 35.148 Euros
C350 V6 wagon: 41.238 Euros
C230 V6 sportcoupe: 30.740 Euros
C350 V6 sportcoupe: 34.162 Euros
03-30-2005, 12:36 PM
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i was just looking at their pricelist and it shows list price and purchase price, wtf? why would they tell you list price?
http://www.mercedes-benz.de/content/.../PBS_6-Zyl.pdf
http://www.mercedes-benz.de/content/.../PBS_6-Zyl.pdf
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Originally Posted by mctwin2kman
What no C180 or C200 anymore for the rest of the world?
http://www.mercedes-benz.de/content/...usine_2005.pdf
03-30-2005, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank Wiesmann
Hey everyone,
Mercedes is now introducing a new V6-gasoline lineup in Germany and Europe.
They are: C230 V6 with 204 hp Available in all C-class models
C280 V6 with 231 hp Available in all models except sportcoupe
C350 V6 with 272 hp Available in all C-class models
The C230 (2,5 liter) replaces the C230 Kompressor, the C280 (3,0 liter) replaces the C240 and the C350 (3,5 liter) replaces the C320. Prices are said to stay identical to the old models. More power for the same amount of money,a good deal if you ask me.
Mercedes is now introducing a new V6-gasoline lineup in Germany and Europe.
They are: C230 V6 with 204 hp Available in all C-class models
C280 V6 with 231 hp Available in all models except sportcoupe
C350 V6 with 272 hp Available in all C-class models
The C230 (2,5 liter) replaces the C230 Kompressor, the C280 (3,0 liter) replaces the C240 and the C350 (3,5 liter) replaces the C320. Prices are said to stay identical to the old models. More power for the same amount of money,a good deal if you ask me.
There will be no more superchargers anymore. Even the AMGs will all be N/A V8s I believe.
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I thought the W204 was to be out in 2007 or so? (m)
Originally Posted by Imperial C320
The Engines are looking good. Cant wait for the new V8s. However I dont think the prices would stay the same knowing MB. Every year they seem to raise the price by 1000 dollars while removing standard features and making them options. I hate it. I want the C350, but I will wait for the W204.
There will be no more superchargers anymore. Even the AMGs will all be N/A V8s I believe.
There will be no more superchargers anymore. Even the AMGs will all be N/A V8s I believe.
I rules out the E class as to me it is too little car for too much $$. There is not 15-20+K of improvement over a C to justify that kind of difference. I can can think of is "they are shafting people because they can". I'll pass and consider the C350 which shold have nearly the same power to weight ratio as the E500, but w/ probably 50% better gas mileage.
03-30-2005, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ctC230K
i was just looking at their pricelist and it shows list price and purchase price, wtf? why would they tell you list price?
http://www.mercedes-benz.de/content/.../PBS_6-Zyl.pdf
http://www.mercedes-benz.de/content/.../PBS_6-Zyl.pdf
Lets see. Is the MSRP the price or is it MSRP plus Salestax prior to paying the rest of the fees/taxes?
03-30-2005, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by amdeutsch
Lets see. Is the MSRP the price or is it MSRP plus Salestax prior to paying the rest of the fees/taxes?
03-30-2005, 08:37 PM
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What is your understanding as to when they are due out?
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i too am going to wait for the 204's
03-30-2005, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Imperial C320
There will be no more superchargers anymore. Even the AMGs will all be N/A V8s I believe.
03-31-2005, 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by mctwin2kman
What no C180 or C200 anymore for the rest of the world?
03-31-2005, 09:01 PM
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HI guys here are more detailed specs for the new v6 engines:
http://www.mercedes-benz.de/content/...echnische.html
(you need to click on the downloadable PDF file)
Of interest is that the new C230 will in fact be slower than the current C230 kompressor. Perhaps it is not such a worthy successor after all.
0 - 100 for the V6 is 8.4 for the manual and ??8.9 for 7 speed auto (I thought the new 7 speed transmission was supposed to be at least as quick as if not quicker than the manual).
0-100 for the current C230 is 8.1 (not sure if this is manual or auto)
Fuel consumption is also up.
The C280s and C350s do seem to be improvements over the current C240s and C320s though with significant improvements in acceleration and fuel economy.
For some reason Mercedes have never brought the C230 sedans to AUstralia and I certainly hope they don't bring the new one or our C180s and C200s will plummet in value!
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http://www.mercedes-benz.de/content/...echnische.html
(you need to click on the downloadable PDF file)
Of interest is that the new C230 will in fact be slower than the current C230 kompressor. Perhaps it is not such a worthy successor after all.
0 - 100 for the V6 is 8.4 for the manual and ??8.9 for 7 speed auto (I thought the new 7 speed transmission was supposed to be at least as quick as if not quicker than the manual).
0-100 for the current C230 is 8.1 (not sure if this is manual or auto)
Fuel consumption is also up.
The C280s and C350s do seem to be improvements over the current C240s and C320s though with significant improvements in acceleration and fuel economy.
For some reason Mercedes have never brought the C230 sedans to AUstralia and I certainly hope they don't bring the new one or our C180s and C200s will plummet in value!
Regards
03-31-2005, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by abcd
Of interest is that the new C230 will in fact be slower than the current C230 kompressor. Perhaps it is not such a worthy successor after all.
0 - 100 for the V6 is 8.4 for the manual and ??8.9 for 7 speed auto (I thought the new 7 speed transmission was supposed to be at least as quick as if not quicker than the manual).
0-100 for the current C230 is 8.1 (not sure if this is manual or auto)
0 - 100 for the V6 is 8.4 for the manual and ??8.9 for 7 speed auto (I thought the new 7 speed transmission was supposed to be at least as quick as if not quicker than the manual).
0-100 for the current C230 is 8.1 (not sure if this is manual or auto)
MBUSA.com:
2005 C230 Kompressor Sport Sedan
Acceleration 0-60 mph in 7.2 seconds (manual), 7.5 seconds (automatic)
and it's actually 6.8 seconds manual according to my own testing :v
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You are indeed right according to MB USA's website. Although it is a 0 -60 time which is 96.1kmh. DOn't think that would account for the difference though.
The figure that I quoted came straight out of the brochure which is distributed here and which I presume are European based specs. THat is quite a significant difference though. Must be that AMG body kit.
Anyway that just widens the performance gap between the new V6 C230 and the current one.
The figure that I quoted came straight out of the brochure which is distributed here and which I presume are European based specs. THat is quite a significant difference though. Must be that AMG body kit.
Anyway that just widens the performance gap between the new V6 C230 and the current one.
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Originally Posted by amg-benz
Ok smarta.. LOL. I rounded up. I still think the new V6 will be a bit faster in the 0-60. It all dependns how much weight is added.
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Yeah Yeah I didn't round up i just went to the next highest number. Anyway I found out the 100LBs of weight equals about 10hp so if we know the weight of the new car we could probably figure out which one would be faster.
